Num Excommunicated for Allowing Abortion to Save a Mother's Life.

[12th Doctor]

The bishop was in the wrong for automatically declaring the nun excommunicated. In case anyone didn't see this though, she was readmitted to the Church.

Sorry, you can't post that.  That just doesn't jive with the "hate the Catholic Church/hate all organized religion and hate the Catholic Church double because it is the poster child of organized religion" world view.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What the hell is a Num?

National Union of Mineworkers

[Free Palestine]

What the hell is a Num?

National Union of Mineworkers

I thought they were already excommunicated for being an ungodly socialist union.

[fezzyfestoon]

Saving a person's life: excommunication.

Molesting a child: a slap on the wrist and re-assignment.

The Catholic Church, everybody!

Unbelievable, really.

I have a question:

When you people totally abandon your intellectual honesty and integrity, is there like a sucking feeling, or is it more like a part of your mind is being cut out?

What about the statement made was untrue, misleading, exaggerative, or anything that indicates any sort of lapse in integrity at all?  And why have you taken a very realistic criticism of the church as something that warrants a personal assault in response?  Is it the frustration of feeling accountable for your church's hypocrisies or maybe a defense mechanism for not being able to defend its actions while maintaining your own integrity and especially intellectual honesty?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Saving a person's life: excommunication.

Molesting a child: a slap on the wrist and re-assignment.

The Catholic Church, everybody!

Unbelievable, really.

I have a question:

When you people totally abandon your intellectual honesty and integrity, is there like a sucking feeling, or is it more like a part of your mind is being cut out?

What about the statement made was untrue, misleading, exaggerative, or anything that indicates any sort of lapse in integrity at all?  And why have you taken a very realistic criticism of the church as something that warrants a personal assault in response?  Is it the frustration of feeling accountable for your church's hypocrisies or maybe a defense mechanism for not being able to defend its actions while maintaining your own integrity and especially intellectual honesty?

The bishop was wrong here, and the bishops who covered up sexual abuse cases were in the wrong then. These people deserve harsh rebuke and criticism, but they shouldn't be used to bludgeon the entire Catholic Church.



This case was quite surprising though considering the modern Church usually reserves excommunication only for people who remain faithful to traditional Catholicism.

[Derek]

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05/21/nun-excommunicated-for-abortion-decision-to-save-mothers-life/

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126985072

The comments from Rev. Doyle, a canon lawyer, in the NPR story is particuarly insightful.

Any pro-life Catholics other then Libertas, or pro-lifers in general, willing to defend this decision?

Yes really stop with your leftwing anger.

Uh, where did I ever say I would oppose abortion if necessary to save the mother's life?

[Derek]

I think you're glad this happened actually because now you have something to come after conservatives about. Your stereotyping is comparable to racism. Stop being ignorant.

[fezzyfestoon]

The bishop was wrong here, and the bishops who covered up sexual abuse cases were in the wrong then. These people deserve harsh rebuke and criticism, but they shouldn't be used to bludgeon the entire Catholic Church.

I agree and disagree.  This one case is not exactly a common occurrence, but the principle of it is the church's fault.  Meanwhile I don't see how the church itself shouldn't be held accountable for the rampant sexual abuse and pitiful response.

[Derek]

They respond as if there is an oil spill in the church.