UK 2010: post election speculation thread

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Because one be needed. Post stuff to to with coalitions and so on here, and not in the results thread. Diolch.

[Franzl]

Sky: "Cameron and Clegg agree to 'explore further plans' for economic and political reform"

[Torie]

Sky: "Cameron and Clegg agree to 'explore further plans' for economic and political reform"

They just talked on the phone about 15 minutes ago.

[Hash]

Ugh. The LibDems will lose all my support if they ally with the Purgatories.

[Phony Moderate]

The bookies think that there will be another election later this year.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/year-of-next-general-election

[bullmoose88]

Ugh. The LibDems will lose all my support if they ally with the Purgatories.

How devastating for them.

[Hash]

The bookies think that there will be another election later this year.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/year-of-next-general-election

The 'bookies' certainly did nail this election, so I'll bow down to their superior knowledge.

[The Mikado]

I'm still hoping for what I was hoping for pre-election, a Lib-Tory coalition.  That's really the arrangement that'd be closest to where I actually am, with the Libs keeping the Tories more reactionary anti-Europe side in check.

There's no doubt that this is a horrible election result for the Libs.

[Torie]

Does this coalition make any sense?

Conservative                    307     
Democratic Unionist Party     8    
Scottish National Party         6    
Plaid Cymru                         3
                                       ____
                                       324

323 is a majority since the 5 Sein Fein MP's don't show up in Parliament.

[Silent Hunter]

Does this coalition make any sense?

Conservative                    307     
Democratic Unionist Party     8    
Scottish National Party         6    
Plaid Cymru                         3
                                       ____
                                       324

323 is a majority since the 5 Sein Fein MP's don't show up in Parliament.

No, because the SNP and Plaid won't support Cameron.

[Franzl]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

Personally, I do actually think there will be some form of Tory-Lib Dem cooperation, most likely with a new election within a year or two, where Conservatives can hopefully get a majority....

The issue of PR won't amount to much, IMO....Conservatives will agree to "talk" about it, and I'm relatively sure that Lib Dems will sell out. (Not that I'm a big PR supporter, mind you)

[Torie]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

Personally, I do actually think there will be some form of Tory-Lib Dem cooperation, most likely with a new election within a year or two, where Conservatives can hopefully get a majority....

The issue of PR won't amount to much, IMO....Conservatives will agree to "talk" about it, and I'm relatively sure that Lib Dems will sell out. (Not that I'm a big PR supporter, mind you)

Actually both the Plaid and the SNP leaders said today on the telly that they would be open to discussing such a coalition, which is why I raise the question.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Does this coalition make any sense?

Conservative                    307     
Democratic Unionist Party     8    
Scottish National Party         6    
Plaid Cymru                         3
                                       ____
                                       324

323 is a majority since the 5 Sein Fein MP's don't show up in Parliament.

IIRC, while the Speaker is officially an ex-Tory, and thus counted with them for BBC purposes, isn't he constitutionally obligated to support the existing government until it actually falls?

So actually at 323 not 324, all it would take would be a single disgruntled backbencher to keep such a plan from happening.  Plus it wouldn't reach the 323 until the by-election is held.

[Silent Hunter]

Does this coalition make any sense?

Conservative                    307     
Democratic Unionist Party     8    
Scottish National Party         6    
Plaid Cymru                         3
                                       ____
                                       324

323 is a majority since the 5 Sein Fein MP's don't show up in Parliament.

IIRC, while the Speaker is officially an ex-Tory, and thus counted with them for BBC purposes, isn't he constitutionally obligated to support the existing government until it actually falls?

He is obliged to maintain the status quo in a tied vote, so in a confidence motion he would back the government.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I'll be very surprised if there isn't some sort of LibDem/Conservative deal, seeing the news that has dropped in today.

[Bacon King]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

Personally, I do actually think there will be some form of Tory-Lib Dem cooperation, most likely with a new election within a year or two, where Conservatives can hopefully get a majority....

The issue of PR won't amount to much, IMO....Conservatives will agree to "talk" about it, and I'm relatively sure that Lib Dems will sell out. (Not that I'm a big PR supporter, mind you)

Actually both the Plaid and the SNP leaders said today on the telly that they would be open to discussing such a coalition, which is why I raise the question.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/election_2010/scotland/8668114.stm

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[afleitch]

Too soon?

[k-onmmunist]

The bookies think that there will be another election later this year.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/year-of-next-general-election

Nah. It'll be next year now.

[J. J.]

Unless there is a Con/LibDem alliance there will be another election this year.

[minionofmidas]

There'll presumably be some kind of a pact. Probably less than a coalition - a coalition would probably not be good for the LDs' future prospects.

The Parliament won't last its entire term, and is more than 50% likely to end in acrimony, but it will last a fair while.

[minionofmidas]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

The SNP wouldn't want to but might. From the outside, against an Independence Referendum.

There is no way in hell PC could support the Tories. At least not without Plaid being the largest party in the combination.

[J. J.]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

The SNP wouldn't want to but might. From the outside, against an Independence Referendum.

There is no way in hell PC could support the Tories. At least not without Plaid being the largest party in the combination.

Actually, Plaid did not rule it out, according to the BBC.

[Хahar 🤔]

Would the SNP really want to work with the Tories...? I have my doubts.

The SNP wouldn't want to but might. From the outside, against an Independence Referendum.

There is no way in hell PC could support the Tories. At least not without Plaid being the largest party in the combination.

Actually, Plaid did not rule it out, according to the BBC.

They might say that, but they would lose all their seats if they supported the Tories.

[patrick1]

Pardon my ignorance on this and if it is in the wrong thread:  Can someone explain or send a link on some of the procedures post election?  For instance, when are the newly elected sworn in and when are votes held to form government? I've never really witnessed a hung parliament and am only really versed in an abstentionist perspective.  Thanks in advance.

[yougo1000]

Probably a commission will be set up to elect PM