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« Reply #50 on: May 08, 2010, 05:02:40 PM »

Oil is an international market and oil is a fungible commodity. It doesn't matter who sells oil to whom. It is all about supply and demand on a world wide basis. Protectionism in this context is not only suck public policy, but almost oxymoronic.

Doesn't that make "drill baby drill" nonsense from the get-go, then?

It marginally increases worldwide supply, and US wealth, but no, it is not remotely a panacea. There are some national security considerations, if foreign tensions disrupt the international market, which is why assuming the US were not in financial extremis, I favor drilling ANWAR, and then capping it, as an additional repository of oil with which to turn on the tap in such an instance. I suspect maybe about 3% or the electorate agrees with me. And no, that does not give me much pause in this instance. Smiley

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« Reply #51 on: May 08, 2010, 05:12:49 PM »

Ultimately of course the cure for corporate misbehavior is a corporate death penalty - if BP could be nationalized for this - without compensation - the remaining oil corporations would be on their p's and q's from then on.
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« Reply #52 on: May 08, 2010, 05:51:58 PM »


The problem with hydrates forming wasn't entirely unexpected.  Indeed, hydrate buildup is one speculated cause of the initial blowout.  If they hadn't had the hydrate, they could have gotten the box into place sooner, but now they've got to take extra steps to get deal with the hydrates that will add at least several days.
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« Reply #53 on: May 08, 2010, 11:09:56 PM »

Ultimately of course the cure for corporate misbehavior is a corporate death penalty - if BP could be nationalized for this - without compensation - the remaining oil corporations would be on their p's and q's from then on.

How will the govt taking over something prevent accidents? Is their some magic wand that is waved that when something becomes nationalized it suddenly becomes safe? I'm sorry but not matter what the people on this forum say I can assuredly tell you that those rigs are heavily regulated by OSHA and the likes. My job is heavily regulated by those jokers and I can tell you we aren't nearly as dangerous as an oil rig job is.  Even if BP is found liable for the deaths of the employees no one goes to jail (unless it's gross or intentional), they'll be heavily fined, so please stop with the nonsense.
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« Reply #54 on: May 09, 2010, 08:51:07 AM »

How will the govt taking over something prevent accidents?

Simple, States, Governments do nothing productive.  Hard to have accidents when there is nothing going on.  Libs like it that way though.
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« Reply #55 on: May 09, 2010, 09:26:06 AM »

How will the govt taking over something prevent accidents?

Simple, States, Governments do nothing productive.  Hard to have accidents when there is nothing going on.  Libs like it that way though.

What did our government ever build anyway?



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« Reply #56 on: May 09, 2010, 10:55:55 AM »

And this, memphis:





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« Reply #57 on: May 09, 2010, 11:04:43 AM »


No, GG, the slums were built by capitalist system.  'Public housing' is merely a very slight adjustment to the standard.  Pretty much everything around you was built 'by' the state, and anyway the 'public'/'private' dichotomy is a false one.
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« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2010, 03:28:29 PM »

How will the govt taking over something prevent accidents?

Simple, States, Governments do nothing productive.  Hard to have accidents when there is nothing going on.  Libs like it that way though.

This is observably incorrect. Perhaps you didn't mean for it to be taken seriously and this is just you playing a little bit of a character to seem overly hostile toward "libs," but even so, this is a ridiculous attitude that is easily proven wrong. Governments have done things very productively and governments have done things very wrong. It's silly to take a knee jerk reaction to the issue, and even if you didn't mean it seriously, it muddies the waters for people who actually care to learn about the topic.
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« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2010, 03:38:18 PM »

How will the govt taking over something prevent accidents?

Simple, States, Governments do nothing productive.  Hard to have accidents when there is nothing going on.  Libs like it that way though.

This is observably incorrect. Perhaps you didn't mean for it to be taken seriously and this is just you playing a little bit of a character to seem overly hostile toward "libs," but even so, this is a ridiculous attitude that is easily proven wrong. Governments have done things very productively and governments have done things very wrong. It's silly to take a knee jerk reaction to the issue, and even if you didn't mean it seriously, it muddies the waters for people who actually care to learn about the topic.

Which doesn't change the fact that all of you demoncrat libs are fascists Tongue
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« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2010, 10:19:55 PM »


Nothing wrong with those apartments except that the uncaring tenants have destroyed them. Not the government's fault. I could show you plenty of privataly built properties that have sufferred the same fate.
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