Breaking: Plane carrying Polish president crashes in Russia; 87 reported dead
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 16, 2024, 10:33:20 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  Breaking: Plane carrying Polish president crashes in Russia; 87 reported dead
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3
Author Topic: Breaking: Plane carrying Polish president crashes in Russia; 87 reported dead  (Read 5224 times)
Queen Mum Inks.LWC
Inks.LWC
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 35,011
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.65, S: -2.78

P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: April 10, 2010, 02:50:25 AM »
« edited: April 10, 2010, 02:53:44 AM by Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

This just broke over MSNBC's e-mail alerts.  I'm looking for more now.

From the BBC:

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Logged
Cubby
Pim Fortuyn
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,067
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -3.74, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 03:49:05 AM »

Why did it have to be Russia! Let the conspiracy theories begin


This just gets worse. Wasn't Kaczynski (or his twin) the one who kept bringing up World War II events at EU meetings a few years back? One of them once said that Poland should be given voting weight commensurate with what its population would be if Hitler and the USSR hadn't invaded.
Logged
Scam of God
Einzige
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,159
United States


Political Matrix
E: 6.19, S: -9.91

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 03:51:27 AM »

I'll say it first: no blood for Poland.
Logged
2952-0-0
exnaderite
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,227


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 03:53:00 AM »

This is going to be a real crisis for their government. Has there ever been an event where so many top officials of a country are killed in one go? This is something you see out of bad movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_TU-154_crash
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,519
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 03:58:33 AM »

Really ? Shocked
Logged
King
intermoderate
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,356
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 04:14:54 AM »



...sorry...
Logged
King
intermoderate
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,356
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 04:17:39 AM »

(AP)   Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife died Saturday along with 130 others when their plane crashed while coming in for a landing in western Russia, officials said.

The governor of the Smolensk region, where the crash took place about 11 a.m. local time, said no one survived.

"The Polish presidential plane did not make it to the runway while landing. Tentative findings indicate that it hit the treetops and fell apart," Sergei Anufriev said on state news channel Rossiya-24. "Nobody has survived the disaster."

The Polish foreign ministry confirmed that Kaczynski and his wife were aboard the plane.

The head of Russia's top investigative body, Sergei Markin, said there were a total of 132 people on the plane, a Tu-154.
Logged
Silent Hunter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,413
United Kingdom


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 04:19:24 AM »

A great tragedy. My thoughts and prayers are with the families.
Logged
GMantis
Dessie Potter
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,014
Bulgaria


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 05:21:14 AM »

What's so terrible about this is that it happened near Katyn.  Polish commentators have already drawn an analogy:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/world/europe/11poland.html



Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 05:21:51 AM »

For some posters: It's not funny. No, there are no conspiracy theories anywhere to hear, you idiots.

As much as I didn't support the President, that's a great tragedy and we just lost half of the governing class and there were various people from various options.

Not to mention pilots, staff etc. etc.

So if you have such comments, shut up please. It's really not a time.
Logged
J. J.
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,892
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 05:37:58 AM »

Tragic on so many levels.  Here is a partial list of victims:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Polish_Air_Force_Tu-154_crash
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,519
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 05:48:10 AM »

Damn it. Such things should never happen.
Logged
hawkeye59
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,530
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 05:49:50 AM »

My condolences to President Kaczynski and all the other victim's families. Sad
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,992
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 06:30:23 AM »

Hard to believe. I didn't like Kaczynski, but this is dreadful. That they were so near to Katyn (and were either going there or returning from it; my hearing isn't too great and I'm not sure which of those the man on the telly said) is just so... well... you know.
Logged
You kip if you want to...
change08
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,940
United Kingdom
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2010, 06:45:16 AM »

My thoughts are with the victims and the rest of Poland today.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2010, 06:46:42 AM »

Hard to believe. I didn't like Kaczynski, but this is dreadful. That they were so near to Katyn (and were either going there or returning from it; my hearing isn't too great and I'm not sure which of those the man on the telly said) is just so... well... you know.

Yes, unpleasant coincidence about date and place.

There's one more thing we should remember. As much as I didn't ever supported him, he was a head of state. Also there are victims from all political options. Well, I knew personally two killed officials, who were from leftist parties.

Not to mention unnamed pilots, staff...
Logged
You kip if you want to...
change08
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,940
United Kingdom
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2010, 06:49:13 AM »

What happens now with so many Sejm and Senat members in the accident?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2010, 07:27:05 AM »

What happens now with so many Sejm and Senat members in the accident?

We're all here are asking the same question right now.
Logged
Hash
Hashemite
Moderator
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,432
Colombia


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2010, 08:33:20 AM »

Holy flipping sh**t. This stuff usually happens only in movies. Condolences to all victims, of course.
Logged
k-onmmunist
Winston Disraeli
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,753
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2010, 08:40:14 AM »

Damn, this surprised me. In a bad way. Condolences.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2010, 08:46:43 AM »

There already are many voices asking how the hell could delegation be as large.

Well, we have the President dead, two Deputy Sejm Speakers (including Social Democratic presidential nominee), number of MPs, all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, number of high-ranking, one ambassador, our equivalent of the Chairman of the Reserve Board, Onbudsman, other generals, one former President... in one single crash.

From constitutional point of view it's not any decapitation. Council of Ministers is all in place, Sejm Speaker became Acting President, military posts fulfilled.

But this is unprecedented crisis.
Logged
Filuwaúrdjan
Realpolitik
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 67,992
United Kingdom


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2010, 09:07:22 AM »

Just heard a seriously sick joke about this. Ah, the internets.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2010, 09:09:24 AM »

Just heard a seriously sick joke about this. Ah, the internets.

I already heard about ten until 3.00 PM, normal.
Logged
k-onmmunist
Winston Disraeli
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,753
Palestinian Territory, Occupied


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2010, 09:10:49 AM »

I expect my friend will be sending me one soon, as he usually does when something like this happens.
Logged
Sam Spade
SamSpade
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,547


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2010, 09:54:17 AM »

The conspiracy-interested part of me, as always and especially given the facts and circumstances, is that the Russians are behind it.

Anyway, I'll ask the local Polish immigrants here today what they think of it.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.053 seconds with 12 queries.