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« on: April 10, 2010, 01:17:23 AM »



To this



To this



Why shouldn't it aim for this --



In a close future election?
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 01:30:11 AM »

Whether it is the religious right, media right or military right they all converge in the political right. As a collective group the right wing is the biggest threat to world peace. Whether it is the Israeli right wings or the Palestinian right wings it’s the right wingers that threaten peace around the world. With the American right wingers the biggest threat to world peace. The right wingers have the backing of the major military, oil, banking, and capital intensive and religious institutions.

Days after 9/11 most of the world and people within the United States were united in their fight against terrorism. Most of the world’s people understood and supported the war in Afghanistan. It was the War in Iraq that divided the people of the world and United States. There was no question whether the United States could win the military battle of the war. The question was could the United States win the peace in Iraq increasing the security of the region? Will the people of Iraq or the United States be any better off after the war? These are the question that the right wingers and left wingers could not agree on.

The Right Wingers are winning the one liner propaganda war.    They are doing this by the dumbing-down the intelligence of the people of America and the world as well as through the manipulation of the global flow of cash. As there is red lining in local real estate markets there too is red lining in the global investments markets. So often the wars are fought in order to control and protect the asset and natural resources of the warrior’s nation. The right wingers are willing spend big bucks to go to war while cutting the benefits to the solders returning to America injured or maimed.

Google "Global Crier"
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 03:17:01 AM »

Is there a particular point behind that last map?
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 07:31:16 AM »

Is there a particular point behind that last map?

Einzige is trying to say that the Democratic Party should whistle past Dixie, instead of trying to bring Southern Populists into their coalition.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 10:55:45 AM »

It's a possibility indeed. It seems that the West is steadily trending dem in recent times, while the South and the rust belt are getting more red. So maybe, in some time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 04:54:45 PM »

It's possible, but stupid to ignore an entire region.  No region should ever be written off - see how well it worked for the Democrats from 1868-1932.
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« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 05:14:13 PM »

It's possible, but stupid to ignore an entire region.  No region should ever be written off - see how well it worked for the Democrats from 1868-1932.

The Democrats won five of those 17 elections (1884, 1892, 1912, 1916, and 1932) and almost won three more (1876, 1880, and 1888).
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 09:31:55 PM »

I think it would be a very stupid move for the Dems to write-off the South Atlantic.  Virginia and North Carolina are probably more valuable than Ohio and they're certainly more valuable than Montana+Dakota.  I'm also not sure why Iowa and Pennsylvania have been thrown away either. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 08:00:04 PM »

It's possible, but stupid to ignore an entire region.  No region should ever be written off - see how well it worked for the Democrats from 1868-1932.

The Democrats won five of those 17 elections (1884, 1892, 1912, 1916, and 1932) and almost won three more (1876, 1880, and 1888).

They also nearly lost 1884, 1892, and 1916, while only winning 1912 because of a split in the GOP - in addition to rarely controlling Congress.  Writing off an entire region is absolutely foolish.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 08:09:08 PM »

It's possible, but stupid to ignore an entire region.  No region should ever be written off - see how well it worked for the Democrats from 1868-1932.

The Democrats won five of those 17 elections (1884, 1892, 1912, 1916, and 1932) and almost won three more (1876, 1880, and 1888).

They also nearly lost 1884, 1892, and 1916, while only winning 1912 because of a split in the GOP - in addition to rarely controlling Congress.  Writing off an entire region is absolutely foolish.

You're not making any sense at all. It was the Republicans who did that, and they most always won.
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 08:19:23 PM »

That wasn't so much 'writing off' as 'defining self against' - there's a difference. Though genuine regionalist politics in the U.S is deader than dead and can't be brought back; not unless you undo radio, television and all that came after both.
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 09:09:31 PM »

You're not making any sense at all. It was the Republicans who did that, and they most always won.

Wow.  You're right.  I feel very stupid.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2010, 09:13:44 AM »

Whether it is the religious right, media right or military right they all converge in the political right. As a collective group the right wing is the biggest threat to world peace. Whether it is the Israeli right wings or the Palestinian right wings it’s the right wingers that threaten peace around the world. With the American right wingers the biggest threat to world peace. The right wingers have the backing of the major military, oil, banking, and capital intensive and religious institutions.

Days after 9/11 most of the world and people within the United States were united in their fight against terrorism. Most of the world’s people understood and supported the war in Afghanistan. It was the War in Iraq that divided the people of the world and United States. There was no question whether the United States could win the military battle of the war. The question was could the United States win the peace in Iraq increasing the security of the region? Will the people of Iraq or the United States be any better off after the war? These are the question that the right wingers and left wingers could not agree on.

The Right Wingers are winning the one liner propaganda war.    They are doing this by the dumbing-down the intelligence of the people of America and the world as well as through the manipulation of the global flow of cash. As there is red lining in local real estate markets there too is red lining in the global investments markets. So often the wars are fought in order to control and protect the asset and natural resources of the warrior’s nation. The right wingers are willing spend big bucks to go to war while cutting the benefits to the solders returning to America injured or maimed.

Google "Global Crier"

Why are you a Republican?
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2010, 12:46:21 PM »

Whether it is the religious right, media right or military right they all converge in the political right. As a collective group the right wing is the biggest threat to world peace. Whether it is the Israeli right wings or the Palestinian right wings it’s the right wingers that threaten peace around the world. With the American right wingers the biggest threat to world peace. The right wingers have the backing of the major military, oil, banking, and capital intensive and religious institutions.

Days after 9/11 most of the world and people within the United States were united in their fight against terrorism. Most of the world’s people understood and supported the war in Afghanistan. It was the War in Iraq that divided the people of the world and United States. There was no question whether the United States could win the military battle of the war. The question was could the United States win the peace in Iraq increasing the security of the region? Will the people of Iraq or the United States be any better off after the war? These are the question that the right wingers and left wingers could not agree on.

The Right Wingers are winning the one liner propaganda war.    They are doing this by the dumbing-down the intelligence of the people of America and the world as well as through the manipulation of the global flow of cash. As there is red lining in local real estate markets there too is red lining in the global investments markets. So often the wars are fought in order to control and protect the asset and natural resources of the warrior’s nation. The right wingers are willing spend big bucks to go to war while cutting the benefits to the solders returning to America injured or maimed.

Google "Global Crier"

Why are you a Republican?

He's kidding.
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2010, 05:08:31 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2010, 05:15:03 PM by Dallasfan65 »

Do the Red EV's actually add up to a victory with the new census?

Edit: Nevermind. According to 270, they don't.
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2010, 03:51:50 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2010, 03:54:29 PM by rebeltarian »

To win more western states, the Democrats would have to drop their more authoritarian tendencies (smoking ban lobby, gun control, FDA, affirmative action) and move rightward economically.  That would essentially make them like the Republicans circa 1960, with a little environmentalism thrown in for good measure.  I suppose a fiscally centrist, social libertarian Democratic Party would do better than a Neocon Republican Party in Montana or Arizona.
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2010, 03:52:37 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2010, 04:44:54 PM »

That's just the trends of the parties and states. Basically the democrats used to be the conservatives and the republicans used to be not necessarily liberal but elitist.
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