Johnson vs. Obama

[redcommander]

You choose the running mates. Who wins?

[sentinel]

You choose the running mates. Who wins?

McDonnell wouldn't run in 2012 for several reasons:

1) He will still be Governor of Virginia -- it takes a lot of time out from your job to campaign seriously.

2) He will still be Governor of Virginia -- he can only have this job once. The Governor of Virginia is only elected to one term and thats it.

3) He is still too fresh on the scene. If you think Obama got crap for being inexperienced, McDonnell will probably get similar criticisms.

4) His chances are best in 2016, assuming Obama wins in 2012.

[redcommander]

I realized that after I published it, How about Johnson instead? If he got the nomination who would he choose and how would he do against Obama?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I realized that after I published it, How about Johnson instead? If he got the nomination who would he choose and how would he do against Obama?

Gary?

[redcommander]

I realized that after I published it, How about Johnson instead? If he got the nomination who would he choose and how would he do against Obama?

Gary?

Yes. I was thinking he would probably have to choose someone who isn't from the libertarian wing of the party in order to win.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

371-167

[justW353]

Assuming a decent Obama presidency...

Best Case Scenario for Johnson:

Worst Case Scenario for Johnson:

I like Johnson.  I think he would make a great President.  However, I just don't see widespread appeal.  

[ScottM]

Johnson is one of the few match-ups I think Obama would actually be able to win in 2012.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Johnson is one of the few match-ups I think Obama would actually be able to win in 2012.

LOL, no.

Johnson would crush Obama.

[Lunar]

I realized that after I published it, How about Johnson instead? If he got the nomination who would he choose and how would he do against Obama?

Gary?

Yes. I was thinking he would probably have to choose someone who isn't from the libertarian wing of the party in order to win.

I know this is BRTD's realm here, but the running mate doesn't shape the race.

It also seems a bit odd to describe the "libertarian wing of the party" as if there's a single prominent politician who would fit that description.

[Хahar 🤔]

I realized that after I published it, How about Johnson instead? If he got the nomination who would he choose and how would he do against Obama?

Gary?

Yes. I was thinking he would probably have to choose someone who isn't from the libertarian wing of the party in order to win.

I know this is BRTD's realm here, but the running mate doesn't shape the race.

It also seems a bit odd to describe the "libertarian wing of the party" as if there's a single prominent politician who would fit that description.

That's why it's a "wing" rather than a "part", I guess.

[Psychic Octopus]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

Except this isn't 1964, and Gary Johnson is far less radical than Goldwater.

[Psychic Octopus]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

Except this isn't 1964, and Gary Johnson is far less radical than Goldwater.

I'd say repealing drug laws and pursuing an anti-war, anti-interventionist foreign policy is pretty radical.

[Bo]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

Except this isn't 1964, and Gary Johnson is far less radical than Goldwater.

I'd say repealing drug laws and pursuing an anti-war, anti-interventionist foreign policy is pretty radical.

The first part is pretty radical, the second part isn't (Bush Jr.'s foreign policy platform in 2000 consisted of opposition to interventionism, war, and nation-building).

[President Mitt]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

Except this isn't 1964, and Gary Johnson is far less radical than Goldwater.

I'd say repealing drug laws and pursuing an anti-war, anti-interventionist foreign policy is pretty radical.

How so? Most Americans don't suppot an interventionist foreign policy, and a large chunk, if not a majority want to legalize marijuana. Calling it radical doesn't really work in my opinion.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Johnson would be the GOP's second Goldwater; he would be defeated in a massive landslide, but he could potentially be the harbinger for a later libertarian movement.

Except this isn't 1964, and Gary Johnson is far less radical than Goldwater.

I'd say repealing drug laws and pursuing an anti-war, anti-interventionist foreign policy is pretty radical.

In the 2010s, opposing the war on drugs is no longer that radical a position. And Gary Johnson's foreign policy is the opposite of Barry Goldwater's. It was Goldwater's pro-war, pro-interventionist foreign policy that was his downfall.

[Psychic Octopus]

Look at the GOP base. A majority of them stood by Bush as he invaded Iraq, and pursued his foreign policy. I can't see social cons coming out to support Johnson's pro-choice and pro-drug views.  

Either way, the man is on the sidelines compared to Ron Paul.

[5280]

The south goes from strong Republican to slight. Northeast goes from moderate Democrat to moderate Republican.  Pacific NW goes moderate Republican, Midwest goes slight Republican.

Basically the country goes back to the pre Reagan years SLOWLY

REP - 368
DEM - 155

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Look at the GOP base. A majority of them stood by Bush as he invaded Iraq, and pursued his foreign policy. I can't see social cons coming out to support Johnson's pro-choice and pro-drug views.  

Either way, the man is on the sidelines compared to Ron Paul.

Well I certainly do hope Ron Paul runs, even if only to get the name recognition for Rand Paul in 2016.

[segwaystyle2012]

Obama will only win a handful of states against anybody at this point.

[Хahar 🤔]

Johnson doesn't actually support legalizing drugs, mind.

[memphis]

Obama will only win a handful of states against anybody at this point.

He leads every GOP candidate in every poll.

[Oakvale]

Obama will only win a handful of states against anybody at this point.

He leads every GOP candidate in every poll.

And this is probably his low point as far as approval goes, too.