2004: Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Warner
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« on: March 14, 2010, 08:59:42 PM »
« edited: March 14, 2010, 09:09:50 PM by Assemblyman Willkie »
In 2004, John Kerry decides to pick the highly popular Governor Mark Warner of Virginia, in an effort to pick up traction in the state and highlight a willingness to be open-minded and ideas-oriented as President. George W. Bush retains Dick Cheney as his running mate. Everything else stays the same.

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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 09:08:14 PM »


355-183
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 09:15:51 PM »

270 - 268

Warner wins Kerry West Virginia and Virginia, and he narrowly wins the election.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 09:29:06 PM »
No change from the RL election map. Bush Jr. still wins with 286 EVs.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2010, 12:40:23 PM »


I think Kerry wins due to two factors, Edwards was in the senate with Kerry when they didn't properly fund the war so Edwards like Kerry were vulnerable on that flip flop. Appalachia OH is very much like VA and I think that would have carried the day more so than Edwards being from NC.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 06:27:16 PM »
You could probably expect the Dukakis factor, with the vice-presidential candidate coming off stronger then the presidential. That said, I may not have supported the ticket if this were the case. Warner is a dope.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 07:58:51 PM »

What?
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 08:00:45 PM »

He said Warner is a dope.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 04:44:56 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2010, 09:32:41 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 09:40:06 PM »

How would Mark Warner cause Kerry to lose Oregon, Connecticut, and Maryland?

How would Kerry ever win South Carolina, Mississippi, or Georgia?
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2010, 09:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) on March 18, 2010, 09:40:06 PM

How would Mark Warner cause Kerry to lose Oregon, Connecticut, and Maryland?

How would Kerry ever win South Carolina, Mississippi, or Georgia?

EPIC LULZ!!!!!!

Prolly throw VA to Kerry. That's it really. Neither men are particularly charismatic, and much like 1988 you would have a Dukakis factor (not really a factor so much). Sets up Warner as a potential frontrunner for 2008 though.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2010, 01:44:22 AM »


271 - 267

I can't see Kerry winning VA in 2004, but it would be much closer with Warner as VP.  However, Warner's capable demeanor and reputation is able to help pull off NM and OH, but has less populist appeal and so narrowly loses WI.  Bush wins popular vote, but with less than 50%.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2010, 10:08:06 PM »
I think Warner helps out tremendously.  For whatever reason, John Edwards was a real dud as a Vice Presidential candidate.  In addition, Warner really had a lot of appeal in Appalachian Virginia, and I think that that would have translated well in both West Virginia and the Appalachian portions of Ohio.  Finally, it really wouldn't have taken much to flip Iowa and New Mexico, and I think Warner being a slightly stronger VP candidate would have resulted in such a flip.

Popular Vote
Kerry/Warner  50%
Bush Cheney  49%

Electoral Vote
Kerry/Warner 302
Bush/Cheney 236
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