How come McGovern won Massachusetts?

[Derek]

Also, Massachusetts is the most liberal/Democratic state in the Union (see above) and it has been so for quite some time, certainly since 1972. Not only were they the only state to vote for McGovern, they were also the only state to give Clinton over 60% in 1996 (and Kerry in 2004). Further, the Democrats dominate the state; until recently, they were an all-Democratic state, and until 2008, the only such state--it voted for Obama in 2008, has a Democratic governor and lieutenant governor, (had) 2 Democratic senators and all representatives are Democrats.

Why didn't Massachusetts vote for Carter or Mondale in 1980 and 1984 then?

Seriously? Reagan won just about everywhere. Massachusetts was very close, but not much could be done for those 2 guys. Together they managed to lose 93 out of 100 states.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Sgt Shriver was on the ticket and simply put it, and he wasn't on the ticket in 1980

[Derek]

Sgt Shriver was on the ticket and simply put it, and he wasn't on the ticket in 1980

that too

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Also, Shriver-Kennedy clan didn't divide the Massachusetts electorate like it did in 1980, with Teddy Kennedy in the primary, Massachusetts electorate was divided and Reagan did a Romney in 2002 when it was divided in the governor primary and won.

[Joe Republic]

Sgt Shriver was on the ticket and simply put it, and he wasn't on the ticket in 1980

Why on earth would the voters of Massachusetts care that an extension of their state's royal family was running for vice president?  You seem to have fallen for the all-too-common fallacy of vastly overstating the impact of a ticket's running mate.

[Derek]

Sgt Shriver was on the ticket and simply put it, and he wasn't on the ticket in 1980

Why on earth would the voters of Massachusetts care that an extension of their state's royal family was running for vice president?  You seem to have fallen for the all-too-common fallacy of vastly overstating the impact of a ticket's running mate.

You know that's a good point. They didn't care enough to vote for Coakley in honor of Ted Kennedy.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

care that an extension of their state's royal family was running for vice president?  You seem to have fallen for the all-too-common fallacy of vastly overstating the impact of a ticket's running mate.
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Yea had LBJ not been from TX and Nixon been from California would those states would of voted the way they did in 1960 and 1976?

[Joe Republic]

Yea had LBJ not been from TX and Nixon been from California would those states would of voted the way they did in 1960 and 1976?

California:  Absolutely.

Texas:  Probably not, but you're rather missing the point.  A popular senator representing that state is rather different from an extended relative of a popular family who lives in a completely different state.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Sgt Shriver was on the ticket and simply put it, and he wasn't on the ticket in 1980

Why on earth would the voters of Massachusetts care that an extension of their state's royal family was running for vice president?  You seem to have fallen for the all-too-common fallacy of vastly overstating the impact of a ticket's running mate.

You know that's a good point. They didn't care enough to vote for Coakley in honor of Ted Kennedy.

Plus Shriver was and is a much greater man than any true Kennedy man was.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Schwarzenegger and Cuomo are also part of the Kennedy clan as well and that enhanced their political fortunes too.

Being part of a clanmanship only enhances your chances not fully elect you to that political office, that might a politician otherwise will do for you.

[Joe Republic]

Schwarzenegger and Cuomo are also part of the Kennedy clan as well and that enhanced their political fortunes too.

Or perhaps Andrew Cuomo is doing well because his dad is Mario Cuomo, and Arnold Schwarzenegger did well because he was Arnold frickin' Schwarzenegger?? 

[Eraserhead]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

[Derek]

Schwarzenegger and Cuomo are also part of the Kennedy clan as well and that enhanced their political fortunes too.

Or perhaps Andrew Cuomo is doing well because his dad is Mario Cuomo, and Arnold Schwarzenegger did well because he was Arnold frickin' Schwarzenegger?? 

Right and plus Arnold if he were eligible to run for president wouldn't carry CA unless it was a landslide.

[President Mitt]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane? Opposing crook warmonger was insane?

[Bo]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane? Opposing crook warmonger was insane?

No and no. However, supporting weed legalization and abortion is.

[Oakvale]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane? Opposing crook warmonger was insane?

No and no. However, supporting weed legalization and abortion is.

I'm not a libertarian, by any means, but I'd like both of those things legal and I like to think I'm more or less sane.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane?

McGovern's position on the Vietnam War? Yes, it was insane.

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Again--it's not the anti-Nixon vote that I'm criticising (I'm no Nixonian myself), but against McGovern, I most certainly would have voted for Nixon.

[President Mitt]

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane? Opposing crook warmonger was insane?

No and no. However, supporting weed legalization and abortion is.

I don't see how either of those are insane. McGovern definitely wasn't as pro-drugs and pro-abortion (which is a ridiculous term) as he was painted by Nixon.

Because--well, I really hate to say this--but they were insane.

Not voting for a criminal warmonger is insane?

Voting for McGovern was.

How? Opposing the Vietnam War was insane?

McGovern's position on the Vietnam War? Yes, it was insane.

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Again--it's not the anti-Nixon vote that I'm criticising (I'm no Nixonian myself), but against McGovern, I most certainly would have voted for Nixon.

I don't really see much difference between Nixon and McGovern besides McGovern being against the war and not being a crook. Nixon and McGovern's economic programme were essentially the same. Nixon and McGovern were both pro-choice (Nixon actually had some very amusing Hitlerite views on abortion, definitely google worthy ).

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

officepark just loves war; that's why he hates McGovern.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

officepark just loves war; that's why he hates McGovern.

lol