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« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2010, 07:08:57 PM »

Yes.  That is there party platform.  You might consider yourself libertarian because you hold most of their platforms, but pro-choice the libertarian stance on abortion.  End of discussion. http://www.lp.org/platform


There is no libertarian platform. The Libertarian Party does not represent libertarianism.
Yes, the libertarian party doesn't represent libertarian values, but Libertas represents libertarian values?  Sorry, your just wrong and you live in fantasy land.  Libertarians support a woman's right to choose.   Your position on this issue is not libertarian.

I know you are just a troll/sock, but this is really getting tiresome.

The LP does not in any way, shape, or form represent libertarian values. It's platform is irrelevant. Libertarians support individual rights and non-aggression. You are clearly clueless on what constitutes libertarianism.
The Libertarian Party is the beacon for the Libertarian platform.  You’re opinions on abortion do not represent the current libertarian party, and, are therefore, not libertarian.  Libertarians believe in the right over body and the belief that government should stand out of the way of a woman’s decision.  That is the platform. It doesn’t matter if you accept it or not.  You’re just acting like a stubborn fool, especially when you make moronic comments, such as the libertarian party does not represent libertarian values.  You’re out of touch with reality.

By the way, you’re the biggest troll on this board.


While I agree with your analysis of the pro-choice stance, I disagree about the Libertarian Party being the sole authority on what is "libertarian" (how do you explain "Barr/Root"?)
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« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2010, 07:16:49 PM »

Yes.  That is there party platform.  You might consider yourself libertarian because you hold most of their platforms, but pro-choice the libertarian stance on abortion.  End of discussion. http://www.lp.org/platform


There is no libertarian platform. The Libertarian Party does not represent libertarianism.
Yes, the libertarian party doesn't represent libertarian values, but Libertas represents libertarian values?  Sorry, your just wrong and you live in fantasy land.  Libertarians support a woman's right to choose.   Your position on this issue is not libertarian.

I know you are just a troll/sock, but this is really getting tiresome.

The LP does not in any way, shape, or form represent libertarian values. It's platform is irrelevant. Libertarians support individual rights and non-aggression. You are clearly clueless on what constitutes libertarianism.
The Libertarian Party is the beacon for the Libertarian platform.  You’re opinions on abortion do not represent the current libertarian party, and, are therefore, not libertarian.  Libertarians believe in the right over body and the belief that government should stand out of the way of a woman’s decision.  That is the platform. It doesn’t matter if you accept it or not.  You’re just acting like a stubborn fool, especially when you make moronic comments, such as the libertarian party does not represent libertarian values.  You’re out of touch with reality.

By the way, you’re the biggest troll on this board.


No it isn't. With regard to libertarianism, you haven't a clue.
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« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2010, 07:20:52 PM »

Yes.  That is there party platform.  You might consider yourself libertarian because you hold most of their platforms, but pro-choice the libertarian stance on abortion.  End of discussion. http://www.lp.org/platform


There is no libertarian platform. The Libertarian Party does not represent libertarianism.
Yes, the libertarian party doesn't represent libertarian values, but Libertas represents libertarian values?  Sorry, your just wrong and you live in fantasy land.  Libertarians support a woman's right to choose.   Your position on this issue is not libertarian.

I know you are just a troll/sock, but this is really getting tiresome.

The LP does not in any way, shape, or form represent libertarian values. It's platform is irrelevant. Libertarians support individual rights and non-aggression. You are clearly clueless on what constitutes libertarianism.
The Libertarian Party is the beacon for the Libertarian platform.  You’re opinions on abortion do not represent the current libertarian party, and, are therefore, not libertarian.  Libertarians believe in the right over body and the belief that government should stand out of the way of a woman’s decision.  That is the platform. It doesn’t matter if you accept it or not.  You’re just acting like a stubborn fool, especially when you make moronic comments, such as the libertarian party does not represent libertarian values.  You’re out of touch with reality.

By the way, you’re the biggest troll on this board.


No it isn't. With regard to libertarianism, you haven't a clue.

WHO MADE YOU GOD AND KING OF WHAT LIBERTARIANISM IS?
Shut up with your purist dogma bullsh*t Libertas, it's becoming old and trite.
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2010, 02:51:19 AM »

What would happen if a pro-choicer made the GOP ticket? I'd be more likely to vote for it. We could probably do better in suburbs than we did with Bush. We could also have a chance to carry some Dem-leaning or Dem-held House seats due to coattails.
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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2010, 03:01:08 AM »

What would happen if a pro-choicer made the GOP ticket? I'd be more likely to vote for it. We could probably do better in suburbs than we did with Bush. We could also have a chance to carry some Dem-leaning or Dem-held House seats due to coattails.

Nominating a "pro-choicer" would kill any shot there is of a Republican winning back the White House in 2012. He would go down even harder than McCain did in 08.
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« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2010, 03:02:54 AM »

What would happen if a pro-choicer made the GOP ticket? I'd be more likely to vote for it. We could probably do better in suburbs than we did with Bush. We could also have a chance to carry some Dem-leaning or Dem-held House seats due to coattails.

Nominating a "pro-choicer" would kill any shot there is of a Republican winning back the White House in 2012. He would go down even harder than McCain did in 08.

Uh, says who?
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« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2010, 03:03:59 AM »

What would happen if a pro-choicer made the GOP ticket? I'd be more likely to vote for it. We could probably do better in suburbs than we did with Bush. We could also have a chance to carry some Dem-leaning or Dem-held House seats due to coattails.

Nominating a "pro-choicer" would kill any shot there is of a Republican winning back the White House in 2012. He would go down even harder than McCain did in 08.

Uh, says who?

Common sense and historical comparisons.
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« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2010, 03:29:50 AM »

a lot of people vote Republican based on this issue, or have been drawn to the party because of it.
a GOP VP nominee would probably not be a big problem if he/she were opposed to public financing of abortion and supported some moderate restrictions like parental notification. a pro-choice presidential nominee would allow a pro-life third party to suck away a lot of votes.
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« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2010, 03:30:53 AM »

a lot of people vote Republican based on this issue, or have been drawn to the party because of it.
a GOP VP nominee would probably not be a big problem if he/she were opposed to public financing of abortion and supported some moderate restrictions like parental notification. a pro-choice presidential nominee would allow a pro-life third party to suck away a lot of votes.

Yes, it would be a blowout defeat for the GOP. Pro-life is one of their few winning issues at the moment.
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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 06:47:06 PM »

While I don't agree the Libertarian Party is a good model for 'Libertarianism', I do agree that a central point of Libertarianism is Self-Ownership being the highest priority. I, and probably most Libertarians on this board and in public are probably pro-choice even if they are pro life in private.

And honestly, as a Male, I feel absolutely no right to regulate a Woman's privacy even if I wasn't pro-choice.
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« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2010, 10:15:06 AM »

I would vote constitution.  but It wont happen.
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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2010, 10:34:03 PM »

While I don't agree the Libertarian Party is a good model for 'Libertarianism', I do agree that a central point of Libertarianism is Self-Ownership being the highest priority. I, and probably most Libertarians on this board and in public are probably pro-choice even if they are pro life in private.

And honestly, as a Male, I feel absolutely no right to regulate a Woman's privacy even if I wasn't pro-choice.

Well hopefully you will soon come to see the flaws in such a position...
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« Reply #62 on: February 22, 2010, 12:20:58 AM »

While I don't agree the Libertarian Party is a good model for 'Libertarianism', I do agree that a central point of Libertarianism is Self-Ownership being the highest priority. I, and probably most Libertarians on this board and in public are probably pro-choice even if they are pro life in private.

And honestly, as a Male, I feel absolutely no right to regulate a Woman's privacy even if I wasn't pro-choice.

Well hopefully you will soon come to see the flaws in such a position...
Do you think poor women should receive social services and financial assistance to raise their children, or should the kids die of starvation afterwards a better alternative?
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« Reply #63 on: February 22, 2010, 01:12:19 AM »

Yes.  That is there party platform.  You might consider yourself libertarian because you hold most of their platforms, but pro-choice the libertarian stance on abortion.  End of discussion. http://www.lp.org/platform


There is no libertarian platform. The Libertarian Party does not represent libertarianism.
Yes, the libertarian party doesn't represent libertarian values, but Libertas represents libertarian values?  Sorry, your just wrong and you live in fantasy land.  Libertarians support a woman's right to choose.   Your position on this issue is not libertarian.

I know you are just a troll/sock, but this is really getting tiresome.

The LP does not in any way, shape, or form represent libertarian values. It's platform is irrelevant. Libertarians support individual rights and non-aggression. You are clearly clueless on what constitutes libertarianism.
The Libertarian Party is the beacon for the Libertarian platform.  You’re opinions on abortion do not represent the current libertarian party, and, are therefore, not libertarian.  Libertarians believe in the right over body and the belief that government should stand out of the way of a woman’s decision.  That is the platform. It doesn’t matter if you accept it or not.  You’re just acting like a stubborn fool, especially when you make moronic comments, such as the libertarian party does not represent libertarian values.  You’re out of touch with reality.

By the way, you’re the biggest troll on this board.


He was saying the ideology and party are two different things. Yes, the party follows the ideology in its own way, but the Libertarian Party is extremely restrictive. Which is why it will never take off. Libertas has a different way, I guess. I don't follow his politics too closely.

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