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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2010, 11:09:27 AM »

Of Course not.
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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2010, 11:11:58 AM »


Hey, a non-defense of your hawkishness!
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« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2010, 11:24:58 AM »

Not yet, no.  I could support targeted elimination of nuclear facilities, but I'd rather use that as a last resort.
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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2010, 03:39:21 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair. 

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.
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« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2010, 05:01:25 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?
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« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2010, 05:17:21 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

I don't care if they hate us, and neither should you.
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« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2010, 05:21:03 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

I don't care if they hate us, and neither should you.

You should care, because anti-U.S. sentiment in the Middle East, because of our dicking around in the region, is exactly what led to 9/11.
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« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2010, 05:55:42 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

I don't care if they hate us, and neither should you.

You should care, because anti-U.S. sentiment in the Middle East, because of our dicking around in the region, is exactly what led to 9/11.

What are you referring to?  Defending our allies? Supporting human rights? Calling for free and fair elections?  Countering communism and socialism? Well, if they don't like that, they can go jump in a lake.  That's what the United States does.  Or at least, it's what we did until Obama. Now, we just apologize.
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« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2010, 07:20:30 PM »

What are you referring to?  Defending our allies? Supporting human rights? Calling for free and fair elections?  Countering communism and socialism? Well, if they don't like that, they can go jump in a lake.  That's what the United States does.  Or at least, it's what we did until Obama. Now, we just apologize.

Since you're so fond of "defending our allies," I suppose you would have opposed invading Iraq and Afghanistan, given the United States' prior alliances with Saddam Hussein and the Taliban, respectively. Any supporter of human rights ought to condemn Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, and Bagram Air Base, which I seriously doubt most supporter of neoconservatism would do. Similarly, a support of free and fair elections ought to also condemn the banning of anti-occupation parties from participating in Iraq and the obvious election fraud commited by U.S. puppet Hamid Karzai. And again, shouldn't someone wishing to counter communism and socialism not be backing an Afghan government full of former Afghan communists or the Iranian socialist terrorist groups MEK and Jundullah?
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« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2010, 07:30:07 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

I don't care if they hate us, and neither should you.

You should care, because anti-U.S. sentiment in the Middle East, because of our dicking around in the region, is exactly what led to 9/11.

What are you referring to?  Defending our allies? Supporting human rights? Calling for free and fair elections?  Countering communism and socialism? Well, if they don't like that, they can go jump in a lake.  That's what the United States does.  Or at least, it's what we did until Obama. Now, we just apologize.

Those are not justifiable reasons to waste billions of taxpayer dollars and put the lives of thousands of Americans at risk.  What do neocons think the Americans are?  Beasts of burden for the entire world?
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« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2010, 07:50:12 PM »

Not yet, no.  I could support targeted elimination of nuclear facilities, but I'd rather use that as a last resort.

Did you support the Iraq War?
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« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2010, 08:24:34 PM »

Not yet, no.  I could support targeted elimination of nuclear facilities, but I'd rather use that as a last resort.

Did you support the Iraq War?

No (I was 8 years old).
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« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2010, 08:29:01 PM »

Not yet, no.  I could support targeted elimination of nuclear facilities, but I'd rather use that as a last resort.

Did you support the Iraq War?

No (I was 8 years old).

Good. You're not a hypocrite.
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« Reply #63 on: February 13, 2010, 01:04:10 PM »

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair.  

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

I don't care if they hate us, and neither should you.

You should care, because anti-U.S. sentiment in the Middle East, because of our dicking around in the region, is exactly what led to 9/11.

So basically people who hate us, want Israel destroyed, and don't even acknowledge that 9/11 was committed by Arabs should have veto power over what we do or don't do.
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« Reply #64 on: February 13, 2010, 03:55:54 PM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.
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« Reply #65 on: February 13, 2010, 09:06:59 PM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.

Israel is no threat to Iran and the Iranian mullahs know that.
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« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2010, 04:53:14 AM »

Yeah, the idiots in charge of Israel are always going on about how Iran should be wiped off the face of the Earth and routinely claiming they don't even exist.  If Iran doesn't get a nuke and NOW they will be overwhelmed by the Jewish forces any day now.
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« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2010, 05:18:29 AM »

Yeah, the idiots in charge of Israel are always going on about how Iran should be wiped off the face of the Earth and routinely claiming they don't even exist.  If Iran doesn't get a nuke and NOW they will be overwhelmed by the Jewish forces any day now.

Exactly. Glad you have finally come to terms with reality.
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« Reply #68 on: February 14, 2010, 08:55:57 AM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.

Israel is no threat to Iran and the Iranian mullahs know that.

What? Israel most certainly could be a threat to Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?
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« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2010, 10:23:17 AM »

Yeah, the idiots in charge of Israel are always going on about how Iran should be wiped off the face of the Earth and routinely claiming they don't even exist.  If Iran doesn't get a nuke and NOW they will be overwhelmed by the Jewish forces any day now.

I realise this post is meant in sarcasm and that you're probably trying to make a point about anti-zionism/anti-semitism, but please don't use 'Israel' and 'Jewish' interchangeably like that.
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« Reply #70 on: February 14, 2010, 12:29:03 PM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.

Israel is no threat to Iran and the Iranian mullahs know that.

What? Israel most certainly could be a threat to Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?

Israel never threatened Iran and never had a war with Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?
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« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2010, 01:33:00 PM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.

Israel is no threat to Iran and the Iranian mullahs know that.

What? Israel most certainly could be a threat to Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?

Israel never threatened Iran and never had a war with Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?

Listen to what Avigdor Lieberman has to say sometime. Then remember that his party is the second-largest party in the government.
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« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2010, 05:19:04 PM »
« Edited: February 16, 2010, 05:26:00 PM by Bunoah »

...beyond Lieberman Israel's leaders always spoke about the fact they could attack Iran when they would judge it accurate to do so. I wonder whether they will wait the end of this year, the affair is becoming hotter and hotter, isn't it?

Considering that I don't support America hypocritically telling other countries that they aren't allowed to develop nuclear weapons, I would say no.

Exactly.  Israel can have them.  Pakistan can have them.  India can have them.  We can have them.  But not Iran.  Critics say, "but we NEED them to check our enemies."  And so do the Iranians.  Of course, I'd prefer total nuclear disarmament of all countries but since that's not going to happen...fair is fair. 

If "fairness" is the only reason you can come up with to allow the Islamic Republic of Iran to have nukes, we have a serious problem.

So any country needs the express permission of the United States in order to build a nuke.  Maybe that's why so many people hate the United States so much?  Because we can't seem to respect other country's sovereignty?

^^^^^^^^

Bloody hell, boys, if you could figure that out now, you're speaking as if the world was your playground, just imagine if other countries did so about your territory and your politics, you're digging your grave and you're claiming to do that for your sake...


Congrats boy, you're officially fallen in the trap, not the Iranian trap, in the worldwide trap. You just don't get that Ahmadinejad wants to fool you on the world scene, wants to break the world between West and Anti-West?

Internet is a cool stuff, you should try to use it to enter in communications with random average people around the world, in order to have a clue about the psychological pace beyond that so cool western cocoon...

WW3 because, in a 1st time, growing of the anti-West psychological feeling around the world amongst political regimes, in a very 2nd time, the slightest Israel/Western bomb touching the Iranian soil would certainly lead Iran to open fire on every Israeli/Western targets it can touch in the region. This certainly leading to a massive cuts in oil exportation worldwide. And, for a while I wanted to open a thread about that, but which consequences could it have on the glorious global economy? And if the global economy takes one more very hard shot, what will happen about that wonderful relationship between China and US? That very nationalist China that really earned personal confidence these last times. Not to speak about Chavez who said that he would do something if US touched Iran, and that would be one more pole of tensions in the world, and an oil one too, with Ecuador, oil too, with him.

So much great perspectives to bomb Iran, and all of this because of some provocations from a regime apparently less and less supported by its population, and overall with never having tried an actual and tough dialog using the weapons of the guy, the world scene. The only positive aspect could be that a bombing would lead to a big war on Iran that would more and more destabilize the regime and would permit the opposition to overthrow it, though could also lead to a civil war with pasdarans. So, here would be the painting, enjoy.

In short, a bombing of Iran would be a huge destabilization of the geopolitical world we know and this in the name of a suspicion toward something we already do (having nukes) and this because not being able to deal with a plain provoker. Bloody hell, let's learn subtlety and actual strong dialog, instead of offended pointless postures. Beyond being unfair with the rest of the world we're ridiculous and ineffective.

As to the question, you guess I answer no, but the question is not even whether, US or West or UN would do that, I tend to think China would always block tough sanctions and if ever they accept it, but, if the affair continues to last, I would be surprise that Israel remains patient a long time. Last year, I said it would happen this year if nothing really changes, by now I haven't changed, let's see what would happen in UN soon, let's especially see what China does, let's just see if Israel can make good surprises...

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« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2010, 06:15:16 PM »

I would go further. How about incinerating their country with a Death Star-like space laser Grin

But noooooo, Obama just had to cut funding for NASA.
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« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2010, 06:53:15 PM »

I don't see how we can tell Iran that it can't protect itself against Israel.

Israel is no threat to Iran and the Iranian mullahs know that.

What? Israel most certainly could be a threat to Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?

Israel never threatened Iran and never had a war with Iran. Where is your hypothesis coming from?

Israel is a much greater threat to world peace than Iran.
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