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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2010, 07:49:44 PM »

MSNBC just said that Coakley HQ was talking about a 5%+ loss.

South Boston was a problem.
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2010, 07:50:47 PM »

A Brown victory seems too good to be true. This mainly comes down to turnout, more than anything else.
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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2010, 07:51:22 PM »

Ten Minutes and counting.
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« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2010, 07:51:34 PM »

MSNBC has someone on saying ANY other Democrat would have won by 10 points. That is very, very true.
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« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2010, 07:52:01 PM »

Nothing on CNN count.
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« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2010, 07:52:24 PM »

It's not too good to be true; it's very shocking but also quite predictable.

In a state where 50 percent are independent, it's not as Democratic as it seems. If Brown can get all Republicans, 2/3rds of independents and 1 in 7 Democrats to switch, he gets 50*.67+5+15=33.5+5+15=53.5 percent.
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« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2010, 07:53:42 PM »

It's not too good to be true; it's very shocking but also quite predictable.

In a state where 50 percent are independent, it's not as Democratic as it seems. If Brown can get all Republicans, 2/3rds of independents and 1 in 7 Democrats to switch, he gets 50*.67+5+15=33.5+5+15=53.5 percent.

That assumes they all turn out relative to their percentage of the voter pool. 
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« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2010, 07:53:54 PM »

MSNBC has someone on saying ANY other Democrat would have won by 10 points. That is very, very true.

Any other candidate that didn't go on vacation in the middle of the campaign.
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« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2010, 07:54:33 PM »

Suffolk University / 7 News
11/4-8/09; 600 likely voters, 4% margin of error
Mode: Live telephone interviews

Flash-back November 2009:

Favorable / Unfavorable
Deval Patick (D): 43 / 47
Tim Cahill (i): 41 / 13
Martha Coakley (D): 57 / 21
Mike Capuano (D): 38 / 18
Charlie Baker (R): 13 / 7
Christy Mihos (R): 30 / 25
Barack Obama: 62 / 33
Alan Khazei (D): 11 / 9
Steve Pagliuca (D): 35 / 18
Jack E. Robinson (R): 9 / 17
Scott Brown (R): 15 / 8

Job Approval / Disapproval
Pres. Obama: 60 / 36
Gov. Patrick: 42 / 51

Do you think Governor Deval Patrick deserves to be re-elected or is it time to elect someone else?
32% deserves re-election, 55% time to elect someone else

2010 Senate Special
Coakley 58%, Brown 27%
Capuano 48%, Brown 29%
Brown 33%, Khazei 30%
Pagliuca 49%, Brown 27%

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ma_2010_gov_sen_special_suffol_1.php

It seems a big part of the problem was the Coakley campaign.

Khazei's numbers were pretty horrible, but someone on SSP was arguing that he'd have been the best candidate.
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« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2010, 07:55:19 PM »

It's not too good to be true; it's very shocking but also quite predictable.

In a state where 50 percent are independent, it's not as Democratic as it seems. If Brown can get all Republicans, 2/3rds of independents and 1 in 7 Democrats to switch, he gets 50*.67+5+15=33.5+5+15=53.5 percent.

That assumes they all turn out relative to their percentage of the voter pool. 

Yeah but if anything, Republicans were more energized. If Obama energizes his own base, then all he's managed to do is guarantee 35-50-15 representation. The massive number of independents still screws Coakley.
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« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2010, 07:55:30 PM »

If she wins this, we ought to do our damndest to make sure she doesn't win the nomination again when 2012 comes around.  
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« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2010, 07:55:50 PM »

Well, I guess this would only be the upset of the century if Coakley won at this point. Tongue
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« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2010, 07:56:12 PM »

Leip PMed me and told me that he voted for Kennedy.

haha.

Dave is so independent that he doesn't vote at all.
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« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2010, 07:56:36 PM »

I know Lunar - just being obnoxious.
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« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2010, 07:56:42 PM »

Leip PMed me and told me that he voted for Kennedy.

I didn't realize Leip had a libertarian bent.  
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« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2010, 07:57:27 PM »

3 MINUTES!
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« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2010, 07:58:23 PM »

It's not too good to be true; it's very shocking but also quite predictable.

In a state where 50 percent are independent, it's not as Democratic as it seems. If Brown can get all Republicans, 2/3rds of independents and 1 in 7 Democrats to switch, he gets 50*.67+5+15=33.5+5+15=53.5 percent.

That assumes they all turn out relative to their percentage of the voter pool. 

Yeah but if anything, Republicans were more energized. If Obama energizes his own base, then all he's managed to do is guarantee 35-50-15 representation. The massive number of independents still screws Coakley.

Yeah, my point was that she was even more screwed than your numbers would indicate Tongue
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« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2010, 07:58:39 PM »

He's a GenX'er right? A lot of them have a libertarian bent. They grew up in a world that was shedding itself of statist shackles/crutches from the 30 Years' War (1914-1945).
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« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2010, 07:59:05 PM »

Last minute calls?

Brown (R) 51.1%
Coakley (D) 47.2%
Kennedy (I) 1.7%
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« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2010, 08:00:50 PM »

POLLS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2010, 08:01:30 PM »

Nobody is declaring it.
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« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2010, 08:02:15 PM »


How do you propose they declare a race like this without exit polls?
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« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2010, 08:02:45 PM »

Intrade seems to be 'declaring it' as after trading at 80 all day, Brown has just surged to 90.
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« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2010, 08:05:19 PM »

Coakley's pollster (Lake, according to Fox) blaming the White House; White House blaming Coakley.

Just love circular firing squad before the result is announced.
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« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2010, 08:05:58 PM »


How do you propose they declare a race like this without exit polls?

Well I am watching Fox. 
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