When Will The U.S. Have its First Transgender President?

[k-onmmunist]

Winfield, drop the bigotry.

[Lincoln Republican]

Winfield, drop the bigotry.

Dude, drop the stupid accusations.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Winfield, drop the bigotry.

Dude, drop the stupid accusations.

I think Winfield meant that there's a big difference between society accepting African American and Transgender

[Lincoln Republican]

Pardon me?

Please do not throw around words like bigot so nonchalantly.

There is no bigotry in expressing that a transgender person will never be elected President.

If there was a national poll taken as to whether the public would vote for a transgender person for President, I rather suspect that a HUGE majority of Americans would say NO!

Would I ever vote for a black candidate for President?  YES!

Would I ever vote for a transgender candidate for President?  NO!

I believe BY FAR most Americans would express these same answers to these questions.

For one thing, a transgender person would not be able to survive the primaries and be taken seriously by the electorate, let alone the Presidential campaign.

I do not say this out of a sense of bigotry at all, simply out of a sense of reality.

Question for you. 

Has a transgender person EVER been elected as Governor or Senator, which is where BY FAR most Presidential candidates and Presidential nominees come from?

If a transgender person cannot get elected to any of these offices, then how do you ever expect them to get elected President?

Given how much attitudes inevitably change over time, it's extremely short-sighted to think that any given minority group will "never" gain widespread acceptance.  You're allowing your personal prejudices to blind you to this fact.

I acccept transgender individuals as members of society as much as I accept anyone else as  members of society.  My belief is they should be free to live their lives free of discrimination or oppression. 

There is, however, a huge difference between widespread acceptance and being elected President.

I do not see society ever electing a transgender individual as President of the United States.

[nclib]

There is, however, a huge difference between widespread acceptance and being elected President.

I do not see society ever electing a transgender individual as President of the United States.

Part of the issue is that transgendered individuals are a very small proportion of the population, and usually the presidency doesn't change more frequently than every four years. So even if society ever completely accepts the transgendered, it would still a few generations until one would likely become president.

[Joe Kakistocracy]

There is, however, a huge difference between widespread acceptance and being elected President.

Please explain.

I do not see society ever electing a transgender individual as President of the United States.

Why not?

[k-onmmunist]

The only reason I can't see a transsexual being elected president in the future is due to the relatively small proportion of them compared to everyone else. Sure, alot of people are bigoted against them at the moment, but that won't be the case forever.

[Lincoln Republican]

There is, however, a huge difference between widespread acceptance and being elected President.

Please explain.

People, including myself, are willing to accept the various lifestyles of others in society.  That does not mean, however, that they would support them to lead the country. 

I do not see society ever electing a transgender individual as President of the United States.

Why not?

I believe voters would pick the other candidate.

And quit throwing around that bigot nonsense.  That seems to be your catchall word when you don't agree with someone.

I have said that I accept and respect people for who they are.  I may not agree with their lifestyles, for example, but I do not condemn them or judge them.

If you find it difficult to accept that, then that is up to you, not me. 


     

[Joe Kakistocracy]

People, including myself, are willing to accept the various lifestyles of others in society.  That does not mean, however, that they would support them to lead the country. 
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I believe voters would pick the other candidate.

So you claim to 'tolerate their lifestyle' (damning with faint praise), but feel that are unfit to govern, regardless of their experience and ideology.  How is that not bigoted?

Furthermore, you assume that a majority of voters would still agree with that sentiment in, say, a hundred years from now.

Given the march of widespread acceptance of social minorities over time, can't you see how that argument is incredibly short-sighted?

[Vepres]

Pardon me?

Please do not throw around words like bigot so nonchalantly.

There is no bigotry in expressing that a transgender person will never be elected President.

If there was a national poll taken as to whether the public would vote for a transgender person for President, I rather suspect that a HUGE majority of Americans would say NO!

Would I ever vote for a black candidate for President?  YES!

Would I ever vote for a transgender candidate for President?  NO!

I believe BY FAR most Americans would express these same answers to these questions.

For one thing, a transgender person would not be able to survive the primaries and be taken seriously by the electorate, let alone the Presidential campaign.

I do not say this out of a sense of bigotry at all, simply out of a sense of reality.

Question for you. 

Has a transgender person EVER been elected as Governor or Senator, which is where BY FAR most Presidential candidates and Presidential nominees come from?

If a transgender person cannot get elected to any of these offices, then how do you ever expect them to get elected President?

100 years ago most Americans said an African-American would never be elected President. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a transgender President in my children's and grandchildren's lifetimes.

Hell we could have our first dog president by the year 2116!

Dogs are not eligible since none of them live to 35. That could change in the future, but no one will elect a dog.

A dog President would be a nice upgrade from the past decade.

[Bo]

Pardon me?

Please do not throw around words like bigot so nonchalantly.

There is no bigotry in expressing that a transgender person will never be elected President.

If there was a national poll taken as to whether the public would vote for a transgender person for President, I rather suspect that a HUGE majority of Americans would say NO!

Would I ever vote for a black candidate for President?  YES!

Would I ever vote for a transgender candidate for President?  NO!

I believe BY FAR most Americans would express these same answers to these questions.

For one thing, a transgender person would not be able to survive the primaries and be taken seriously by the electorate, let alone the Presidential campaign.

I do not say this out of a sense of bigotry at all, simply out of a sense of reality.

Question for you. 

Has a transgender person EVER been elected as Governor or Senator, which is where BY FAR most Presidential candidates and Presidential nominees come from?

If a transgender person cannot get elected to any of these offices, then how do you ever expect them to get elected President?

100 years ago most Americans said an African-American would never be elected President. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a transgender President in my children's and grandchildren's lifetimes.

Hell we could have our first dog president by the year 2116!

Dogs are not eligible since none of them live to 35. That could change in the future, but no one will elect a dog.

A dog President would be a nice upgrade from the past decade.

Oh yes, a dog President would be such a great thing, considering that his paw could accidentally press the nuclear button at any time.