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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2010, 11:16:49 PM »

If a Democrat had to win in 2016, I'd want it to be Feingold.

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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2010, 11:17:26 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2010, 11:22:06 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.

No profanity, please. I don't use profanity when I'm talking to you. By the way, if you don't think being a Cabinet Secretary (not Undersecretary) and being the Governor of the third-largest state in the nation (New York) is not enough experience to be President, than no one would really be qualified for President. Jimmy Carter was Governor of Georgia for only 4 years before he became President and Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Both Georgia and Arkansas are much smaller in population than New York.
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2010, 11:27:17 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.

No profanity, please. I don't use profanity when I'm talking to you. By the way, if you don't think being a Cabinet Secretary (not Undersecretary) and being the Governor of the third-largest state in the nation (New York) is not enough experience to be President, than no one would really be qualified for President. Jimmy Carter was Governor of Georgia for only 4 years before he became President and Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Both Georgia and Arkansas are much smaller in population than New York.
And population has what to do with being President?
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2010, 11:31:56 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.

No profanity, please. I don't use profanity when I'm talking to you. By the way, if you don't think being a Cabinet Secretary (not Undersecretary) and being the Governor of the third-largest state in the nation (New York) is not enough experience to be President, than no one would really be qualified for President. Jimmy Carter was Governor of Georgia for only 4 years before he became President and Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Both Georgia and Arkansas are much smaller in population than New York.
And population has what to do with being President?

A country is a pretty large and populous place to manage. Thus it is considered that governors from more populous states would be better able to manage a country since they already have experience managing a very populous area. This is why Spiro Agnew and Sarah Palin were criticized for their gubernatorial experience--because they managed small states and helping the President amange a very poplous country is a very different matter.
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2010, 11:32:27 PM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.

No profanity, please. I don't use profanity when I'm talking to you. By the way, if you don't think being a Cabinet Secretary (not Undersecretary) and being the Governor of the third-largest state in the nation (New York) is not enough experience to be President, than no one would really be qualified for President. Jimmy Carter was Governor of Georgia for only 4 years before he became President and Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Both Georgia and Arkansas are much smaller in population than New York.
And population has what to do with being President?

A country is a pretty large and populous place to manage. Thus it is considered that governors from more populous states would be better able to manage a country since they already have experience managing a very populous area. This is why Spiro Agnew and Sarah Palin were criticized for their gubernatorial experience--because they managed small states and helping the President amange a very poplous country is a very different matter.

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« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2010, 12:32:53 AM »

Should Obama win re-election?

I'd be inclined to think Andrew Cuomo, should he run and win as Governor of New York. Mark Warner is also a possibility, but I can't help but feeling his time has past. Brian Schweitzer? maybe...

Hillary and Biden are also swing factors. Hillary has denied it, but you know, she's Hillary. Biden has reported interest in the job, but he will 74 and tired.
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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2010, 01:04:20 AM »

I respectfully disagree with you on this topic. I think that Warner's lack of charisma could be a real liability for him and I'm not sure he'd be able (or willing) to raise the huge amounts of money needed nowadays to run a decent nationwide campaign.

He has enough charisma, and he doesn't need to raise much money, as he's independently loaded.  But yes, he is also capable of raising such funds, should need be.
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« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2010, 01:37:26 AM »

Hillary. She has proven herself to be a team player with Obama, and she will have the most political experience out of the possible candidates most likely.

Will she run, though? As for her being a team player, that's only to improve her image and to possibly further her political ambitions. As for her having the most political experience, I beg to differ. No counting her years as First Lady (where, other than screwing up healthcare reform, she didn't really do much that other First Ladies didn't do), Hillary would have 15 years of experience (8 Senate+8 Sec. of State) in 2016. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo (another potential candidate) would have 18 years of experience (4 as Cabinet undersecretary + 4 as Cabinet Secretary + 4 as Attorney General + 6 as Governor), which is more than Hillary's 16 years. Thus your claim about Hillary being the most experienced potential candidate in 2016 is automatically proven false.

um, lol?

lol about what? Eveyrthing I wrote is perfectly reasonable.

The idea that experience is somehow measured simply in years of holding ofice. Not to mention, you completly ignored her time as First Lady.

Remind me again how her being first lady gave her political experience? The only non-ceremonial thing she did as First Lady is screw up healthcare reform. BTW, are you messing with me?

LOl. Am I messing withyou? You are messing withthis entire forum.

I'd think being married to the President would give you a bit more insight into how to do the job than would bing Attrone General or Governor of New York.

In that case, go ahead and travel to Michigan, Georgia, California, and Texas and ask Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, and Laura Bush about how much insight they got on how to do the job of President. Might as well ask Michelel Obama about that while you're on it, if you are ever able to meet her.

Certainly more than an undersecretary and or NY AG would, dumbass.

No profanity, please. I don't use profanity when I'm talking to you. By the way, if you don't think being a Cabinet Secretary (not Undersecretary) and being the Governor of the third-largest state in the nation (New York) is not enough experience to be President, than no one would really be qualified for President. Jimmy Carter was Governor of Georgia for only 4 years before he became President and Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Both Georgia and Arkansas are much smaller in population than New York.
And population has what to do with being President?

A country is a pretty large and populous place to manage. Thus it is considered that governors from more populous states would be better able to manage a country since they already have experience managing a very populous area. This is why Spiro Agnew and Sarah Palin were criticized for their gubernatorial experience--because they managed small states and helping the President amange a very poplous country is a very different matter.

Meaningless.

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« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2010, 01:58:50 AM »

Hillary will be too old, so I would go with one of the younger stars in the Democratic Party such as Brad Henry.  He's a great governor for Oklahoma, and I'm pretty sure he would at least compete hard for the Democratic Nomination.
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« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2010, 02:17:07 AM »

Hillary will be too old, so I would go with one of the younger stars in the Democratic Party such as Brad Henry.  He's a great governor for Oklahoma, and I'm pretty sure he would at least compete hard for the Democratic Nomination.

Isn't he pro-life, though? That a great thing in my opinion, but I think that if true, this will severely hurt his chances of winning the nomination, as many abortion-obsessed feminists will be afraid that he will overturn Roe vs. Wade.
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« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2010, 02:27:26 AM »



HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE.
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« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2010, 02:31:42 AM »


I hope Joe Sestak defeats Arlen "Turncoat" Specter in the Democratic primary in 2010. He'd make a good candidate in 2016 in my opinion.
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« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2010, 02:38:06 AM »


I hope Joe Sestak defeats Arlen "Turncoat" Specter in the Democratic primary in 2010. He'd make a good candidate in 2016 in my opinion.

I figure the guy (if he defeats Snarlin Arlen and wins the Senate seat) would have the perfect record for the presidency: Former Admiral in the US navy, considered one of the most productive members of the House after being in it for only 3 years, I would guess he would be equally as productive if he becomes a Senator. A friggin former rear guard Admiral who would by 2016 have a record for being productive and in my opinion is perhaps one of the best at sounding pragmatic. Guys like Sestak are born to run for higher office.
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2010, 09:29:26 AM »

With regards to Hillary.... she really will be 'old news' by 2016, and just old in general. As for her tenure as First Lady, I remember hearing somewhere she didn't even have a security clearance for cabinet meetings.
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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2010, 04:14:17 PM »

With regards to Hillary.... she really will be 'old news' by 2016, and just old in general. As for her tenure as First Lady, I remember hearing somewhere she didn't even have a security clearance for cabinet meetings.

Of course not. Why would she have security clearance for cabinet meetings? I think that by law, the President is forbidden from bringing his wife to Cabinet meetings since those meetings are those of highest national security and priority and typically contain top secret information that no one else may know about.
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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2010, 06:10:09 PM »

How about Governor Bill White?
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2010, 08:16:59 PM »

How about if Hillary doesn't run the democrats run John McCain. XD
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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2010, 01:43:41 AM »

How about if Hillary doesn't run the democrats run John McCain. XD

lol. No. McCain is finished.
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2010, 02:40:47 AM »

Yeah, I'd be tempted to support Sestak, but Snarlin' Arlen might just run as an Indy should he lose the primary.
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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2010, 02:50:15 AM »

Yeah, I'd be tempted to support Sestak, but Snarlin' Arlen might just run as an Indy should he lose the primary.

I dont think he can do that.
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« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2010, 02:51:30 AM »

Yeah, I'd be tempted to support Sestak, but Snarlin' Arlen might just run as an Indy should he lose the primary.

I dont think he can do that.

wut do u mean?
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« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2010, 03:00:18 AM »

Yeah, I'd be tempted to support Sestak, but Snarlin' Arlen might just run as an Indy should he lose the primary.

I dont think he can do that.

wut do u mean?

I think pennsylvania law says that if you lose the primary you cant run.
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« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2010, 03:11:37 AM »

Yeah, I'd be tempted to support Sestak, but Snarlin' Arlen might just run as an Indy should he lose the primary.

I dont think he can do that.

wut do u mean?

I think pennsylvania law says that if you lose the primary you cant run.

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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2010, 10:03:56 AM »

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