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« Reply #200 on: August 20, 2010, 08:21:25 AM »

Morgan phone poll has it at 51-49 to Labor on primaries of 42 38 13 to the Coalition.

State breakdowns show a hung parliament with Labor one seat short. Assuming that the Greens win Melbourne and agree to prop up Labor, that still leaves the 3 independants as the kingmakers.

That's hilariously close to what my prediction was - 50.8% ALP to 49.2% and I've already told you about the numbers of seats.

Of course, if that Newspoll in Qld proves correct, I could be totally wrong and it could be a Coalition majority. Last weekend, one of the polls (I think Galaxy) had the LNP picking up 11 seats... which is one seat more than the 10 they lost to Labor last election. I was speaking to someone very senior in political circles today (my Facebook friends know of whom I am referring) and he was saying about how damaged the Labor brand currently is in NSW, too.
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« Reply #201 on: August 20, 2010, 08:37:10 AM »

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Also, Poll Bludger reports that Coalition sources are saying that late deciders in QLD are falling too Labor...
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« Reply #202 on: August 20, 2010, 08:47:18 AM »

I heard from someone intimately involved in the Liberal campaign. They think their best hope is a minority government - QLD isn't going to be good for the ALP, but maybe not the bloodbath the LNP needs. They also aren't sure about Bennelong, Greenway, or Macquarie (3 NSW seats that are must wins for the Coalition)
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« Reply #203 on: August 20, 2010, 08:57:36 AM »

Also people keep in mind should Brandt win Melbourne he won't be the first Green MP, Michael Organ won the Cunningham by-election in 2002. He would be the first to win at a general election.
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« Reply #204 on: August 20, 2010, 09:07:40 AM »

Carn Jules!

I tip Victoria to save Labor's arse. Excluding Melbourne, I'd guess all the swing seats (McEwen, Deakin, Corangamite and La Trobe) will go Labor, but none of them are definite. They're screwed in WA and will lose seats in NSW and QLD, but I think the buffer will be enough if Gillard can keep Victorians on side, and I think she can.
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« Reply #205 on: August 20, 2010, 09:29:03 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11020897
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« Reply #206 on: August 20, 2010, 09:33:10 AM »

One of the great things about Australian elections from a spectators point of view is the wildly divergent nature of pre-election speculation about how things are really going.
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« Reply #207 on: August 20, 2010, 11:58:08 AM »

Where is the best place for Yanks to watch?

If not live than just updates?

What time would coverage start for us?
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« Reply #208 on: August 20, 2010, 11:59:48 AM »

Where is the best place for Yanks to watch?

If not live than just updates?

What time would coverage start for us?

http://www.skynews.com.au/ - Sky stream
http://www.livestation.com/account/streams/1918595-abc_australia_livestream_not_247 - There might be an ABC stream here.
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« Reply #209 on: August 20, 2010, 12:09:38 PM »

The Sky stream is worse than useless, at least for me.
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« Reply #210 on: August 20, 2010, 12:27:35 PM »

The Sky stream is worse than useless, at least for me.

I don't think they've started it up yet. It's only for their election programme.
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« Reply #211 on: August 20, 2010, 01:04:30 PM »

The audio is working on the Sky stream at the moment.
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« Reply #212 on: August 20, 2010, 01:12:07 PM »

One of the great things about Australian elections from a spectators point of view is the wildly divergent nature of pre-election speculation about how things are really going.

I can tell you that we're looking either at a Labor blow-out, close Labor victory, close Liberal victory, or Liberal blow-out.  It's looking close...
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« Reply #213 on: August 20, 2010, 01:28:34 PM »

Blank maps:

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« Reply #214 on: August 20, 2010, 01:29:35 PM »


Thanks. Smiley
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« Reply #215 on: August 20, 2010, 01:49:16 PM »

Figuring out that map is like solving a puzzle.
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« Reply #216 on: August 20, 2010, 01:52:41 PM »

What time does coverage start, British time?
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« Reply #217 on: August 20, 2010, 01:53:38 PM »

What caused Gillard to gain back her footing in the last week of the campaign? It seemed like Abbott was gaining a lead until recently.
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« Reply #218 on: August 20, 2010, 02:14:05 PM »

What caused Gillard to gain back her footing in the last week of the campaign? It seemed like Abbott was gaining a lead until recently.

1. She stopped he bleeding.

2. It became a close race. When Labor had a lopsided lead, no one paid attention to Tony Abbott because his winning was an impossibility. As a consequence, people focused on how unhappy they were with Labor, with how Rudd was ousted, with aspects the campaign, etc. When Abbott actually becoming Prime Minister became a real prospect, Labor had a message and went over to the offensive, and it looks like a number of voters recoiled at the prospect. Now whether that is enough of them is an open question, and I am interested mainly because I suspect Obama's reelection campaign in 2012 may largely mirror Gillard's.
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« Reply #219 on: August 20, 2010, 02:34:06 PM »

It became a close race. When Labor had a lopsided lead, no one paid attention to Tony Abbott because his winning was an impossibility. As a consequence, people focused on how unhappy they were with Labor, with how Rudd was ousted, with aspects the campaign, etc. When Abbott actually becoming Prime Minister became a real prospect, Labor had a message and went over to the offensive, and it looks like a number of voters recoiled at the prospect. Now whether that is enough of them is an open question, and I am interested mainly because I suspect Obama's reelection campaign in 2012 may largely mirror Gillard's.

That sounds like the Swedish election. The opposition leading quite a bit because people mostly focus on being unhappy with the incubent goverment, but as the election draws closer people starts to realise that don't actually want the awful leader of the opposition as PM, and even though they're not completely happy  with the goverment the other alternative is even worse, and thus making the race a tie.



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« Reply #220 on: August 20, 2010, 02:34:27 PM »


You win at life. Thanks a million.
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« Reply #221 on: August 20, 2010, 03:59:46 PM »

Any progress on a live stream? ABC has one, but it's Australia only. I tried one of the IP clocking things that usually works for US sites like NBC, but it didn't work. The Sky feed's a bit choppy for me.
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« Reply #222 on: August 20, 2010, 04:04:43 PM »

I think ABC might be opening theirs up later so ex-pats can watch. Not sure when and - anyway - I might be wrong.
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« Reply #223 on: August 20, 2010, 04:11:02 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2010, 04:16:51 PM by Sibboleth »

These are - by the look of it - the final set of polls.

Galaxy: ALP 52
Nielsen: ALP 52
Essential Research: ALP 51
Morgan: ALP 51
Newspoll: ALP 50.2

Edit: in 2007 Labor took 52.7% of the 2PP vote.
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« Reply #224 on: August 20, 2010, 04:21:34 PM »

I think ABC might be opening theirs up later so ex-pats can watch. Not sure when and - anyway - I might be wrong.

Ah, a bit of Tweet searching confirms it:

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