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« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2009, 06:16:36 AM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

I'm required to wait 24 hours after the last debate among senators.

Unless someone wishes to move to invoke cloture, but that would require one more vote than regular passage.
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« Reply #151 on: December 12, 2009, 06:21:45 AM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

I'm required to wait 24 hours after the last debate (b]among senators[/b].

Unless someone wishes to move to invoke cloture, but that would require one more vote than regular passage.

Precisely. Hamilton&co aren't Senators.
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« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2009, 06:22:21 AM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

I'm required to wait 24 hours after the last debate (b]among senators[/b].

Unless someone wishes to move to invoke cloture, but that would require one more vote than regular passage.

Precisely. Wink Hamilton&co aren't Senators. Yet.
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« Reply #153 on: December 12, 2009, 11:58:20 AM »

I will continue to oppose this legislation, no matter how it is amended.

The legality of voter registration must be clearly defined in the law.  This bill allows an appointed body to subjectively make a determination that a particular voter is ineligible.  While the bill has improved somewhat, putting in additional checks and balances, it still allows for a voter who has met every legal requirement to vote to be disqualified based on popular opinion of that voter.  I will not vote in favor of any bill that makes that allowance.
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« Reply #154 on: December 12, 2009, 12:26:32 PM »

I hereby open a final vote on this bill.

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Please vote AYE, NAY or ABSTAIN.
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« Reply #155 on: December 12, 2009, 12:34:21 PM »

I've made my decision.

Despite my initial and, to be perfectly honest, ongoing sceptical views about how this would work in practice, I believe we should give the idea a chance.

There are very many safeguards in place to ensure that people aren't denied their right to vote for mere political reasons.

Not only the supermajority required to confirm members of the HAEV, but also the fact that it requires a 3-0 vote there to actually remove someone from the voter list. Not to mention the possible appeal to the Supreme Court.


I'm willing to see how it turns out if implemented.

I vote Aye.
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« Reply #156 on: December 12, 2009, 12:40:46 PM »

A strong Aye, and I encourage all other Senators to give this proposal a chance. If it works, keep it, but if it ends up not working once implemented, we will have all the rights to repeal this.
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« Reply #157 on: December 12, 2009, 12:41:11 PM »

I'm willing to see how this turns out, and if how much it helps Atlasia.

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« Reply #158 on: December 12, 2009, 12:54:35 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #159 on: December 12, 2009, 12:56:20 PM »

Aye: 3
Nay: 1

2 more votes in favor are required for passage.
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« Reply #160 on: December 12, 2009, 01:10:31 PM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

um... excuse me? If apparently my questions aren't "constructive" then I can just veto this silly bill like I had originally planned.
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« Reply #161 on: December 12, 2009, 01:20:16 PM »

I can just veto this silly bill like I had originally planned.

Your support is appreciated.
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« Reply #162 on: December 12, 2009, 01:33:02 PM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

um... excuse me? If apparently my questions aren't "constructive" then I can just veto this silly bill like I had originally planned.

You perfectly know I wasn't alluding to you. Please don't be so touchy and understand my irritation to see Hamilton doing everything he can to block a bill he doesn't approve.
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« Reply #163 on: December 12, 2009, 01:34:42 PM »


The debate is cause by people who are not Senators, and who don't bring anything contructive.

um... excuse me? If apparently my questions aren't "constructive" then I can just veto this silly bill like I had originally planned.

You perfectly know I wasn't alluding to you. Please don't be so touchy and understand my irritation to see Hamilton doing everything he can to block a bill he doesn't approve.

Why not? You are in here trying to support a bill you foolishly approve of. That is some okay but what I do isn't it. lol. Man, you people get worse with time, don't you?
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« Reply #164 on: December 12, 2009, 01:40:17 PM »

Well, my questions are still unanswered despite the pushiness of some people here to end debate immediately. And at the moment I'm inclined to agree with Fritz, as I have been since this bill was introduced.
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« Reply #165 on: December 12, 2009, 01:46:45 PM »

Would these people have to be citizens who currently do not hold office?

Since the Atlasian law prohibits to hold more than one office, yes, they should.


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Because last time it tried to do this, it was accused of being uneffective/counterproductive. Delegating this authority to people which are here to deal with the issue is the best thing we can do.
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« Reply #166 on: December 12, 2009, 01:55:09 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #167 on: December 12, 2009, 02:06:42 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #168 on: December 12, 2009, 02:07:58 PM »

Yeah! Now, off to the hard part(s).
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« Reply #169 on: December 12, 2009, 02:23:44 PM »

This bill has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #170 on: December 12, 2009, 03:05:08 PM »

Aye ftr


I am a little skeptical of this as well, but we shall have to see how it turns out.
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« Reply #171 on: December 12, 2009, 04:26:33 PM »

Well done, Senators.
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« Reply #172 on: December 12, 2009, 04:30:22 PM »


It feels weird to have your support in this now Tongue
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« Reply #173 on: December 12, 2009, 04:31:37 PM »


It's worth a try Wink
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« Reply #174 on: December 12, 2009, 04:34:02 PM »

I hope Lief vetoes this.
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