Do you satisfy the Republican purity test?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Yes, although I disagree with 8.

[CARLHAYDEN]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!

[CARLHAYDEN]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

[Scam of God]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.

[Lunar]

So which party do I belong in folks?  Tell me. Thanks in advance.

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Is Lunar not the only one who marks JC down as his personal hero, ass-hole?

How did I get dragged into this?

[CARLHAYDEN]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.

You are a complete nut case!

[Scam of God]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

And you have never demonstrated any independence of thought.

You are a complete nut case!

Better to be insane and novel than sane and tedious.

[Aizen]

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

Since when does the Republican Party care about smaller debt, smaller government and lower deficits? What a joke

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

Of course not. I like the Republican plan of not having a plan though. I guess when you're the party of intellectual lightweights it's easier to simply be obstructionists.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

As pointed out, this is market reform. So, uh.....


(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Don't really care about unions but I don't "support" the Republican agenda here so no.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No, I'm realistic

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No. Republicans may love wasting money and resources on stupid wars but I don't

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No. I'm not a retarded bigot

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

Abortion will never be illegal. Get over it and stop wasting our time with this stupid wedge issue

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

There isn't going to be any restrictions on guns but at the same time there is no need to expand your "rights" to allow guns on campus, trains, national parks, strip clubs etc. The status quo is not perfect but I'm more or less fine with it. So No to this agenda


So pretty much 0ish out of 10. That's certainly a relief.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

1-No, and Republicans talking about small government now is downright hilarious.
2-No.
3-No, as stated before this is a market-based system you morons.
4-No, though it's a fairly minor issue and nothing but a scare campaign to blue-collar UNIONS=COMMUNIST!!!!111!!! teabagger types.
5-No.
6-No.
7-This is somewhat vague, but I'll say no since it seems to include military action.
8-No.
9-No, stupid loaded question.
10-Not opposed, but this is now a non-issue and nothing more than more scare tactics.

So around 0.5/10 it seems.

[Lunar]

Is Lunar not the only one who marks JC down as his personal hero, ass-hole?

I actually agree with your approach on all of your responses, with a few minor quibbles (being open to health care models based on other countries' experiences in principle, even if admitting it's not a feasible solution in the American political context, being more pro-gun for pragmatic reasons).

I think all of us are guilty of, what was that term I just used in another thread?, ideologically pre-scripted policies, that's right, and then realizing that the issues are more complex than we like to simplify them down to....some of which boil down to conflicting persuasive moral principles (abortion), and others which get boiled down to rhetorically charged words ("government takeover"  "single-payer") with little interest in how the actual policy turns out....which results in a "compromise" which is barely tolerable to a majority of legislators assortments of special interests which care about different things.   I mean, with all the talk of the evil health insurance industry opposing health care reform, it's mostly lost that the prescription drug industry is spending $150m in support of it in exchange for some looser regulations on new technology patents to prevent them from becoming generics (and more people having access helps them too).... anyway...I'm not sure what I was trying to say.  I doubt I agree with any hilarious set of guiding partisan principles and it'd be offensive if anyone tried to impose that on my party.  Those principles don't stem from any meta theory of governance, as you said, they are just the aggregate product of the moment from the coalition that makes up Republican-inclined voters.  

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.

Let's look at Minnesota's Collin Peterson:

(1) Yes, he did vote against the Stimulus.
(2) Yes, voted against the health care bill
(3) He initially did speak against cap and trade and said he would oppose any such bill though he did work out a compromise with Waxman and has agreed to support the current plan though. Which makes it a No by Republican standards.
(4) Looks like he made some procedural vote against a predecessor to EFCA in the past. So Yes.
(5) Yes.
(6) No.
(7) Once again depends on definition. But he has said he would oppose any war with Iran, so let's say no.
( Yes.
(9) Yes.
(10) Yes.

So yeah, he has a 7 and is a committee chairman that no one is complaining about. This says a lot.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The Republican party is a narrow tent of ideologues. I bet a lot of Blue Dogs have a 7 or so on this test.

Let's look at Minnesota's Collin Peterson:

(1) Yes, he did vote against the Stimulus.
(2) Yes, voted against the health care bill
(3) He initially did speak against cap and trade and said he would oppose any such bill though he did work out a compromise with Waxman and has agreed to support the current plan though. Which makes it a No by Republican standards.
(4) Looks like he made some procedural vote against a predecessor to EFCA in the past. So Yes.
(5) Yes.
(6) No.
(7) Once again depends on definition. But he has said he would oppose any war with Iran, so let's say no.
( Yes.
(9) Yes.
(10) Yes.

So yeah, he has a 7 and is a committee chairman that no one is complaining about. This says a lot.

The sad thing is that if he's got a committee chairmanship with a 7, there are definitely some at least rank and file Congressmen with an 8 or more. I'm sure that Dan Boren qualifies for the narrow tent of ideological extremists. The political spectrum among major Oklahoma politicians might be something like this
10: Republican
9: Independent or Democrat
8: Democrat
7: Radical communist

[Sbane]

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Um... cap and trade is a market-based solution, idiots.

LOL that's exactly what I was thinking.

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

Carbon is being treated as just any other finite resource and being traded in the marketplace. This is what would be "market based energy reforms". I don't see a more market based reform to curb carbon emissions. FTR I oppose cap and trade but I was just pointing out the inanity of that statement.

[Ebowed]

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

No.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

LOL

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Just no.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

Oh definitely not.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

No.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

LOL

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Not at all.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I don't agree with #5 and #8.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

I would pass with 8 out of 10

[Hash]

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

No. Also, drop the 'small government' act now, plz.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

No. I don't support fake 'reform'

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

Absolutely not. I don't support fake 'reform'.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Lean yes, because I pretty much loathe unions but not in the GOP's OMG COMMIES way.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

No. We won't win, so drop the act.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Vague, but no.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

No. I'm not a bigot.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

not this sh**t again. No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Absolutely not.

1/10.

[Franzl]

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

In theory, I suppose, but not the way they mean it. No.

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

No.

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

No.

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

Yes.

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

No. Very hateful rhetoric there.

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

I wouldn't use those words. "Victory" and "Winning" are stupid, but I do support stability in the region. As far as Afghanistan is concerned, yes, I would support an increase in the number of troops there, therefore: Yes.

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

Depends what you mean by "effective action". I think it's important to keep nuclear weapons out of their hands, but I don't support intervening militarily at this time. So I guess I'd have to say: Yes, somewhat.

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

Never. No.

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

No.

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

No.

2.5 / 10

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

...yes and no...so I answer No

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

yes

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

yes

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

yes

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

yes

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

no...should play hit and run instead

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

yes

(8 ) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

yes

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

yes

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

yes

[Joe Republic]

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

You are a complete nut case!

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Not looking good:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

(8) We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Its a government imposed tax, you idiot!

Sorry, but you have not show any evidence of thought!

You are a complete nut case!

CARL, please stop the ad hominem attacks if you are able to do so and offer rational arguments.

CARL wont be happy unless everyone passes the purity test with no questions asked. 

[LBJ Revivalist]

Not looking good:

(1) We support smaller government, smaller national debt, lower deficits and lower taxes by opposing bills like Obama’s “stimulus” bill;

(2) We support market-based health care reform and oppose Obama-style government run health care;

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

(4) We support workers’ right to secret ballot by opposing card check;

(5) We support legal immigration and assimilation into American society by opposing amnesty for illegal immigrants;

(6) We support victory in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting military-recommended troop surges;

(7) We support containment of Iran and North Korea, particularly effective action to eliminate their nuclear weapons threat;

( We support retention of the Defense of Marriage Act;

(9) We support protecting the lives of vulnerable persons by opposing health care rationing and denial of health care and government funding of abortion; and

(10) We support the right to keep and bear arms by opposing government restrictions on gun ownership.

Looks like the GOP has left you.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

(3) We support market-based energy reforms by opposing cap and trade legislation;

yes

actually, not so sure the GOP would like my energy solutions:
1) raise mileage standards to 40MPG by 2017
2) Build 50 new nuclear power plants by 2020
3) 80% of new cars to run on nat gas and/or electricity by 2020, 100% by 2030...50% of new 18 wheelers to run on nat gas by 2017, all new 18 wheelers to run on nat gas by 2020
4) build nat gas fueling infrastructure
5) drill like crazy

that is NOT cap and trade, but it ain't exactly market based either...but it would drastically cut foreign oil imports