ICP Poll: Do you support abolition of the regional Senate seats?

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No DA voters

I don't usually divulge trade secrets, but three days is usually better for polls, especially if you start it at the beginning of a weekend. PS is never on on Saturdays for instance. The other DAer's I don't know about.

My poll on this which was for three days had basically the same results yours currently show, and the DA gave 3 votes in support and 4 votes opposed, making them split 42%-58% against. Overall it was opposed by a 56%-44% margin. 

Thank you

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

support 42% oppose 55% unsure 3%

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Poll will remain open until Monday

[AndrewTX]

I voted!

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Hell no!  Heck - I'd still like to see District Senate seats come back.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Support 40% Oppose 55% Unsure 5%

[DownWithTheLeft]

You can't vote Yes/PC, the entire point of the party is the protection of regional senate seats.

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You can't vote Yes/PC, the entire point of the party is the protection of regional senate seats.

Well, everyone can vote as they are please

[Associate Justice PiT]

You can't vote Yes/PC, the entire point of the party is the protection of regional senate seats.

     I'm personally curious who voted that.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hell no!  Heck - I'd still like to see District Senate seats come back.

Please justify.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Hell no!  Heck - I'd still like to see District Senate seats come back.

Please justify.

GirlGoneWild

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

No (DA).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

That is an ignorant analysis. Most "moderates" (I do not consider the DA as a group "moderate", however that's how I will use the term) abandoned the party not because of anything other than a loss of electoral standing. Without a way to provide power, why should they help you gain it? It's simple politics. The RPP was able to keep/gain voters such as afleitch and AndrewCT by creating a wide-reaching platform that has appeal. Unfortunately, since then,   the party has made clear that it is not actually going in that direction, and is returning to the reactionary state that caused losses in April and August. You also lost a big component of the turn out machine, something that was deadly to the party. You aren't even considering the way that some former party members may have been helping the party for a while after leaving until the party went on a crazy witch hunt for no reason other than to pacify the Dear Leader, DWTL, one of the most ignorant trolls I've ever encountered.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

That is an ignorant analysis. Most "moderates" (I do not consider the DA as a group "moderate", however that's how I will use the term) abandoned the party not because of anything other than a loss of electoral standing. Without a way to provide power, why should they help you gain it? It's simple politics. The RPP was able to keep/gain voters such as afleitch and AndrewCT by creating a wide-reaching platform that has appeal. Unfortunately, since then,   the party has made clear that it is not actually going in that direction, and is returning to the reactionary state that caused losses in April and August. You also lost a big component of the turn out machine, something that was deadly to the party. You aren't even considering the way that some former party members may have been helping the party for a while after leaving until the party went on a crazy witch hunt for no reason other than to pacify the Dear Leader, DWTL, one of the most ignorant trolls I've ever encountered.

Your analysis wasn't much better. DWTL was actually the last one to get on board. I was trying to find someway of diffusing your power back when you and Tmth were going at it in August during those elections. Even after our little incident at the beginning of the convention he was unwilling to attack or go after you. Wasn't untill the name change that he really turned against you. You would be in the RPP today, if you had listened more and talked a little less. When you say alienating moderates though the only moderates we have lost are you and Vepres. I realize why you must feel that way, but look at it in our shoes. At least we had people who could neutralize DWTL, with you it wasn't so.

[Хahar 🤔]

I find it amusing that RowanBrandon, who left the party because of DWDL, is now his strongest backer.

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

That is an ignorant analysis. Most "moderates" (I do not consider the DA as a group "moderate", however that's how I will use the term) abandoned the party not because of anything other than a loss of electoral standing. Without a way to provide power, why should they help you gain it? It's simple politics. The RPP was able to keep/gain voters such as afleitch and AndrewCT by creating a wide-reaching platform that has appeal. Unfortunately, since then,   the party has made clear that it is not actually going in that direction, and is returning to the reactionary state that caused losses in April and August. You also lost a big component of the turn out machine, something that was deadly to the party. You aren't even considering the way that some former party members may have been helping the party for a while after leaving until the party went on a crazy witch hunt for no reason other than to pacify the Dear Leader, DWTL, one of the most ignorant trolls I've ever encountered.

Your analysis wasn't much better. DWTL was actually the last one to get on board. I was trying to find someway of diffusing your power back when you and Tmth were going at it in August during those elections. Even after our little incident at the beginning of the convention he was unwilling to attack or go after you. Wasn't untill the name change that he really turned against you. You would be in the RPP today, if you had listened more and talked a little less. When you say alienating moderates though the only moderates we have lost are you and Vepres. I realize why you must feel that way, but look at it in our shoes. At least we had people who could neutralize DWTL, with you it wasn't so.

None of that has anything to do with my argument. Moderate voters, not just party members. You're not very familiar with my reasons for leaving, mostly because I'm entirely secretive about motives, as you well know. I'd be glad to explicate this history through PM, as I actually don't care all that much about Atlasia and actually hope to deregister, though I plan to wait until my term finishes, as to not insult my supporters and constituents who made a tough decision and put their faith in me among a slate of strong candidates. And for that I am entirely appreciative.  

Also, as an aside, you can't neutralize DWTL. Your party doesn't have the political minds necessary to ever break through his fascist control. A few people were able to recognize that, as has been revealed to me through PM, and have expressed their disappointment. They, too, are scared of going against him.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I find it amusing that RowanBrandon, who left the party because of DWDL, is now his strongest backer.

I am surprised the whole world didn't get turned around on its head after what happened on the Private Forums August-October.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

That is an ignorant analysis. Most "moderates" (I do not consider the DA as a group "moderate", however that's how I will use the term) abandoned the party not because of anything other than a loss of electoral standing. Without a way to provide power, why should they help you gain it? It's simple politics. The RPP was able to keep/gain voters such as afleitch and AndrewCT by creating a wide-reaching platform that has appeal. Unfortunately, since then,   the party has made clear that it is not actually going in that direction, and is returning to the reactionary state that caused losses in April and August. You also lost a big component of the turn out machine, something that was deadly to the party. You aren't even considering the way that some former party members may have been helping the party for a while after leaving until the party went on a crazy witch hunt for no reason other than to pacify the Dear Leader, DWTL, one of the most ignorant trolls I've ever encountered.

Your analysis wasn't much better. DWTL was actually the last one to get on board. I was trying to find someway of diffusing your power back when you and Tmth were going at it in August during those elections. Even after our little incident at the beginning of the convention he was unwilling to attack or go after you. Wasn't untill the name change that he really turned against you. You would be in the RPP today, if you had listened more and talked a little less. When you say alienating moderates though the only moderates we have lost are you and Vepres. I realize why you must feel that way, but look at it in our shoes. At least we had people who could neutralize DWTL, with you it wasn't so.

None of that has anything to do with my argument. Moderate voters, not just party members. You're not very familiar with my reasons for leaving, mostly because I'm entirely secretive about motives, as you well know. I'd be glad to explicate this history through PM, as I actually don't care all that much about Atlasia and actually hope to deregister, though I plan to wait until my term finishes, as to not insult my supporters and constituents who made a tough decision and put their faith in me among a slate of strong candidates. And for that I am entirely appreciative.  

Also, as an aside, you can't neutralize DWTL. Your party doesn't have the political minds necessary to ever break through his fascist control. A few people were able to recognize that, as has been revealed to me through PM, and have expressed their disappointment. They, too, are scared of going against him.

I would be happy to compare notes and timelines and fill in some of the blanks.

I am not afraid of DWTL. Anyone who is just dumb. He just needs to be put in his place every now and then just like Tmth, PiT, yourself(but no one could) and bunch of other people who dug themselves one hell of a big f**king hole at one point or another.

[Alexander Hamilton]

If the Regional Protection Parody is serious about supporting regional rights (which, due to their record, is highly doubtful), they will join me in opposing any attempts to create a Council of Governors.

We have already been there for months. What provoked the change in opinion on your part?

I have never supported a Council of Governors. It's one of the worst ideas to be proposed in Atlasia.

But you were for Regional Senate seats before you were against them before you were for them.

I didn't mention regional seats at all, did I? No, I didn't. My main reason for opposing the regional seats is because I don't like the party it props up, the party that is unable to reach out beyond its narrow scope to any potential allies and has trouble pushing any kind of legislative agenda because it chooses to elect incompetents or leftists.

I am open to keeping or abolishing regional seats, mainly because I don't care. It's not like the at-large elections are some more "exciting" or "competitive." But, given the choice between someone like DWTL, and someone who adamantly opposes regional seats, of course I will vote against regional seats.

Okay, Hamilton, who are we not reaching out to? When you were in the party all we did was lose moderates because of the fighting, unethical practices or the inabililty to stop something from occuring before it drove someway do to the factionalism.

That is an ignorant analysis. Most "moderates" (I do not consider the DA as a group "moderate", however that's how I will use the term) abandoned the party not because of anything other than a loss of electoral standing. Without a way to provide power, why should they help you gain it? It's simple politics. The RPP was able to keep/gain voters such as afleitch and AndrewCT by creating a wide-reaching platform that has appeal. Unfortunately, since then,   the party has made clear that it is not actually going in that direction, and is returning to the reactionary state that caused losses in April and August. You also lost a big component of the turn out machine, something that was deadly to the party. You aren't even considering the way that some former party members may have been helping the party for a while after leaving until the party went on a crazy witch hunt for no reason other than to pacify the Dear Leader, DWTL, one of the most ignorant trolls I've ever encountered.

Your analysis wasn't much better. DWTL was actually the last one to get on board. I was trying to find someway of diffusing your power back when you and Tmth were going at it in August during those elections. Even after our little incident at the beginning of the convention he was unwilling to attack or go after you. Wasn't untill the name change that he really turned against you. You would be in the RPP today, if you had listened more and talked a little less. When you say alienating moderates though the only moderates we have lost are you and Vepres. I realize why you must feel that way, but look at it in our shoes. At least we had people who could neutralize DWTL, with you it wasn't so.

None of that has anything to do with my argument. Moderate voters, not just party members. You're not very familiar with my reasons for leaving, mostly because I'm entirely secretive about motives, as you well know. I'd be glad to explicate this history through PM, as I actually don't care all that much about Atlasia and actually hope to deregister, though I plan to wait until my term finishes, as to not insult my supporters and constituents who made a tough decision and put their faith in me among a slate of strong candidates. And for that I am entirely appreciative.  

Also, as an aside, you can't neutralize DWTL. Your party doesn't have the political minds necessary to ever break through his fascist control. A few people were able to recognize that, as has been revealed to me through PM, and have expressed their disappointment. They, too, are scared of going against him.

I would be happy to compare notes and timelines and fill in some of the blanks.

I am not afraid of DWTL. Anyone who is just dumb. He just needs to be put in his place every now and then just like Tmth, PiT, yourself(but no one could) and bunch of other people who dug themselves one hell of a big f**king hole at one point or another.

PM me for details.