Your position on abortion

[The Dowager Mod]

We've seen the two best pro-abortion rights positions ever displayed in the last few days. Flyers wants abortion so single women will not have children. Texasgurl wants abortion because she believes the children will starve to death. That really helps your cause.

ok try to keep up dimwit.
all i want to know is what will happen to the thousands of babies that will be forcibly carried to term.

[Jake]

They won't be dead first of all. That's usually seen as a positive in our culture.

[The Dowager Mod]

And still no answer.

[Jake]

The question is not valid because it assumes that millions of other children cannot be cared for.

[phk]

Abortion is a great human triumph.

[The Dowager Mod]

The question is not valid because it assumes that millions of other children cannot be cared for.

haha
Let me know when you think of a straight answer.

[The Dowager Mod]

Well they can't or won't answer my question.
What will happen to all the babies they would force women to have?
Simple yet no one has a clue.

[© tweed]

The "blob on the plate" is actually not on a plate, but will eventually become a human being.  You're just using incendiary language to prove your point.

I would feel horrible.  It is a terrible thing.  However, because A is bad does not necessarily make B any better.  The mother may go through hell, but the baby will be brought to term and have a chance at life.

And, how to feed them?  I have no problem with my tax dollars going toward feeding people who cannot possibly feed themselves.

Even if the child is brought to term, it will at least potentially live - aborted children do not even have the chance to starve.

I didn't use the starve to death argument so don't pin the last 2 paragraphs on me.

Now you have a priority problem, in my estimation.  You place the rights of the month-old blob over the rights of the mother (who is the living person here, do not forget who is living and who isn't) who has been wrongfully impregnated by being raped.  Now you are forcing this person to live 9 months pregnant, maybe another couple filing adoption papers, etc.  So in the meantime, you want to take a year out of her life for a wrong done upon to HER, not a wrong that she did.  This decision not only costs the mother time, but also money as her productivity at work/time at work must be decreased.

I cannot repsect your position on this.

[??????????]

The fetus is alive as well Mr Tweed.

[Jake]

Well they can't or won't answer my question.
What will happen to all the babies they would force women to have?
Simple yet no one has a clue.

I think we've found who created MissCatholic folks.

Tweed - "Rights" are not subjective. Nor is there a right not to be incovenienced by a child.

[The Dowager Mod]

Well they can't or won't answer my question.
What will happen to all the babies they would force women to have?
Simple yet no one has a clue.

Again, I have no issues with my tax dollars going to ensure those who cannot feed themselves are fed, but in many cases they can sustain themselves when they grow up.

If they refuse to, on the other hand, I cannot respect that.

Well conservatives have shown that they would rather not have taxes go to help the less fortunate, so there lies the conundrum.

[Emsworth]

And you did not answer the question how typical.

How exactly is not answering your question "typical"? The question was based on what I believed to be an inappropriate line of reasoning; hence, I chose not to answer it.

The "blob on the plate" is actually not on a plate, but will eventually become a human being.

Does it have rights or not? That question does not admit of an easy objective answer.

[The Dowager Mod]

Well they can't or won't answer my question.
What will happen to all the babies they would force women to have?
Simple yet no one has a clue.

I think we've found who created MissCatholic folks.

Tweed - "Rights" are not subjective. Nor is there a right not to be incovenienced by a child.

And another brilliant answer from the Nazi.

[nclib]

The fetus is alive as well Mr Tweed.

Whether or not the fetus is alive is debatable. What is not debatable is that the mother is alive.

[The Dowager Mod]

And you did not answer the question how typical.

How exactly is not answering your question "typical"? The question was based on what I believed to be an inappropriate line of reasoning; hence, I chose not to answer it.

The "blob on the plate" is actually not on a plate, but will eventually become a human being.

Does it have rights or not? That question does not admit of an easy objective answer.

Call it what you want, it simply proves my point.

[© tweed]

So if the rapist had never raped, you'd also be denying a prospective child 80 years of life.  Should rape be enouraged?  The wrong was done, and if it was not, then the child would not ever exist.  The month-old blob here should not hold much weight in the issue when the mother has undergone all of the trauma...why cause her more?

And this issue effect about 1000 people per year for all the debate it causes.

[Jake]

Another brilliant insult from the Nomo clone.

BTW, Alcon - which fallacy did Texasgurl just use with her previous post?

nclib, wrong as usual. The fetus is clearly as alive as any other organism.

[The Dowager Mod]

Well they can't or won't answer my question.
What will happen to all the babies they would force women to have?
Simple yet no one has a clue.

Again, I have no issues with my tax dollars going to ensure those who cannot feed themselves are fed, but in many cases they can sustain themselves when they grow up.

If they refuse to, on the other hand, I cannot respect that.

Well conservatives have shown that they would rather not have taxes go to help the less fortunate, so there lies the conundrum.

Well, I disagree with them on that, but I can't exactly be responsible for their view any more than you can be.

That's fine but it doesn't answer the question.
Conservatives have their knee jerk jihad against abortion yet have no clue about the result if they win.

[Cashcow]

Against abortion in all cases except life of the mother, although I respect any woman who would sacrifice her life for her child's - so I am on the fence there.

So you've gone completely insane?

Yeah, I really can't repect a view that doesn't include rape as an exception.  It's just insanity to think a mother should be forced to bear a child that she was physically forced into conceiving.

I have to agree with Jake here.  I don't see why it should matter how the child was conceived.

I feel bad for the emotional effect to the mother, but even worse about the child not being brought to term.

I knew you were an idiot and a fascist, but not a rabid misogynist. I thought that was resevered for Dazzleman.

[The Dowager Mod]

Another brilliant insult from the Nomo clone.

BTW, Alcon - which fallacy did Texasgurl just use with her previous post?

nclib, wrong as usual. The fetus is clearly as alive as any other organism.

Right answer the question with insults

[Jake]

Okay Nazi

[Emsworth]

I personally think that the current status of the fetus is irrelevant, because the life will eventually result.

That is where we differ, I suppose. I do not believe that the possibility of future life or personhood endows a fetus with a present right to life. In the meantime, I would respect the reproductive autonomy of the woman.

BUT... the mere fact that the baby may not be able to get a decent lifestyle does not, in my opinion, justify an abortion.

[© tweed]

nclib, wrong as usual. The fetus is clearly as alive as any other organism.

I don't like to get into the scientific elements of the abortion issue because different scientists come to different conclusions, but the fetus is certainly not as much alive as the mother (especially in the first trimester) because the fetus cannot survive on its own.

[A18]

I knew you were an idiot and a fascist, but not a rabid misogynist. I thought that was resevered for Dazzleman.

Pro-life = misogynist? You are a half-baked dunce.

[Jake]

Whether it is independent is another argument. One can be hooked to life support and be alive.