ProCon October 2009 Convention in Indianapolis (Voting on Platform)

[Alexander Hamilton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

[afleitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

[Alexander Hamilton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

It certainly is the most sensible form of government. This NE Assembly session is largely based around the ideas of liberal conservatism and progressive reforms.

[afleitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

It certainly is the most sensible form of government. This NE Assembly session is largely based around the ideas of liberal conservatism and progressive reforms.

Yes; and I also understand the Assembly has mixed partisan membership.

[Alexander Hamilton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

It certainly is the most sensible form of government. This NE Assembly session is largely based around the ideas of liberal conservatism and progressive reforms.

Yes; and I also understand the Assembly has mixed partisan membership.

The RPP has effective control, essentially because we control the speakership and have the larger alignment.

[afleitch]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

It certainly is the most sensible form of government. This NE Assembly session is largely based around the ideas of liberal conservatism and progressive reforms.

Yes; and I also understand the Assembly has mixed partisan membership.

The RPP has effective control, essentially because we control the speakership and have the larger alignment.

Well as I said if the party wants to embrace liberal conservatism then I'm pleased.

[Chief Justice PiT]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

I feel this sums up a lot of RPP members ideas and policies.

As a liberal conservative myself I'm not seeing it. I don't see anything remotely 'Cameronian' about the RPP.

You aren't looking.

I've been proposing adapted Tory 'liberal conservative' policy for the past two Senates Trust me I'd have noticed.

Of course if you want to go down that European ideological route then all the best to you.

I consider myself a liberal conservative or in Canada, a progressive conservative. I know that many of our members share similar ideologies.

Well good. I've been trying to coax conservatives in Atlasia over the ground where I've been standing for some time

Have you been keeping track of the NE assembly's work?

You do understand that when I say 'some time' I mean years right?

It certainly is the most sensible form of government. This NE Assembly session is largely based around the ideas of liberal conservatism and progressive reforms.

Yes; and I also understand the Assembly has mixed partisan membership.

The RPP has effective control, essentially because we control the speakership and have the larger alignment.

Well as I said if the party wants to embrace liberal conservatism then I'm pleased.

     I don't like it, but I find it an acceptable compromise since a party embracing anarcho-capitalism wouldn't go very far.

[Alexander Hamilton]

     I don't like it, but I find it an acceptable compromise since a party embracing anarcho-capitalism wouldn't go very far.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=102759.msg2176273#msg2176273

[afleitch]

I don't like it, but I find it an acceptable compromise since a party embracing anarcho-capitalism wouldn't go very far.

There's alot to that ideology (particularly eminating from the 'hubs' of Britain and Sweden) you will probably not be too comfortable with. Besides the movement from American Conservatism to European conservatism requires the acceptance of various ideas that we accepted a generation or so back (American Conservatism for me went awry post Nixon/Ford) including reaching an understanding with the welfare state and using it to forumate and act on policy.

It also, as in Europe leaves the 'third' party in Atlasia (the DA) enough room to leapfrog the RPP to being more right wing on economic issues (like the German FDP) But that would be a few elections away at least!

[Alexander Hamilton]

Emergency vote motion withdrawn.

[Chief Justice PiT]

     I don't like it, but I find it an acceptable compromise since a party embracing anarcho-capitalism wouldn't go very far.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=102759.msg2176273#msg2176273

     I don't think I would never get a car that wasn't Japanese-made unless I could afford a Mercedes or BMW or something similar. I probably shouldn't given their history, but I like the quality of their products.

I don't like it, but I find it an acceptable compromise since a party embracing anarcho-capitalism wouldn't go very far.

There's alot to that ideology (particularly eminating from the 'hubs' of Britain and Sweden) you will probably not be too comfortable with. Besides the movement from American Conservatism to European conservatism requires the acceptance of various ideas that we accepted a generation or so back (American Conservatism for me went awry post Nixon/Ford) including reaching an understanding with the welfare state and using it to forumate and act on policy.

It also, as in Europe leaves the 'third' party in Atlasia (the DA) enough room to leapfrog the RPP to being more right wing on economic issues (like the German FDP) But that would be a few elections away at least!

     Not to mention that from the American perspective, there does not appear to be much difference between the mainstream left & right in Europe. I suspect that is the source of much animosity towards Europe from the American right.

[Rowan]

I would like access to the super secret forum. Thank you.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I would like access to the super secret forum. Thank you.

HELL NO

[Rowan]

I would like access to the super secret forum. Thank you.

HELL NO

I was asking the people in the party that are in charge, aka the ACTUAL leadership. Not you, so mind your own business for once.

[Psychic Octopus]

Gave the hopefully new name a banner!

[Brandon H]

Aye on the endorsement vote (from the beginning of the thread).

Can we stick to business in this thread. We are at 6 pages in 2 and half hours and some of the discussion in here is just useless crap.

[afleitch]

    Not to mention that from the American perspective, there does not appear to be much difference between the mainstream left & right in Europe. I suspect that is the source of much animosity towards Europe from the American right.

There is an enormous difference to me, though I guess it's like we're playing soccer and you guys are playing baseball. Both sports, both have opposing teams and fans but play by different rules. To me American conservatism only pays lip service to genuine personal liberty; it's too influenced by religion, a rigid morality and is quite statist.

If you want an understanding of the history of British Conservatism check the video link in my sig

[afleitch]

Gave the hopefully new name a banner!

I can design something if you like? In the years I've been here I've designed things for all parties and candidates

[Alexander Hamilton]

Gave the hopefully new name a banner!

I can design something if you like? In the years I've been here I've designed things for all parties and candidates

Sure, that would be a very nice gesture

[Psychic Octopus]

Gave the hopefully new name a banner!

I can design something if you like? In the years I've been here I've designed things for all parties and candidates

Sure, that would be great.

[Psychic Octopus]

Afleitch's creation. It looks good.

[Barnes]

Afleitch's creation. It looks good.

Not that I want to get in RPP politics, but that's a very nice banner. And NiK, your's wasn't bad, either.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Afleitch's creation. It looks good.

I honestly love taht. I would support that being our official banner.

[Sewer]

I am runing for chairman.

[afleitch]

Thank you I let my artistic gayness out of it's box now and then