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« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2010, 06:14:33 PM »
« edited: February 09, 2010, 01:44:43 AM by Nym90 »

So if every state in the nation used the district system of EV allocation ala Maine and Nebraska the Electoral vote count would've been....

1968
Humphrey 189
Nixon 293
Wallace 56

1972
McGovern 64
Nixon 474

1976
Carter 269
Ford 269

1980
Carter 144
Reagan 394

1984
Mondale 71
Reagan 467

1988
Dukakis 158
Bush 380

1992
Clinton 324
Bush 214

1996
Clinton 344
Dole 194

2000
Gore 250
Bush 288

2004
Kerry 221
Bush 317

2008
Obama 301
Mccain 237

Clearly the district system would be beneficial for Republicans overall. 1976 would've been a mess as almost certainly many close districts would've had recounts....if the tie still stood, presumably Carter would've been elected by the House given its large Democratic majority, and especially considering that he won the popular vote.
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2010, 06:15:51 PM »

1968
D 191
R 243
(only 434 districts then - Hawaii still 2 AL)

1972
D 59
R 376

1976
D 220
R 215

1980
D 129
R 306

1984
D 66
R 369

1988
D 135
R 300

1992
D 257
R 178

1996
D 279
R 156

2000
D 207
R 228

2004
D 180
R 255

2008
D 242
R 193



For 1968, what about the districts that Wallace won? I assume these totals only reflect which of Nixon or Humphrey got more votes in each district?
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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 06:18:02 PM »

1968
D 191
R 243
(only 434 districts then - Hawaii still 2 AL)

1972
D 59
R 376

1976
D 220
R 215

1980
D 129
R 306

1984
D 66
R 369

1988
D 135
R 300

1992
D 257
R 178

1996
D 279
R 156

2000
D 207
R 228

2004
D 180
R 255

2008
D 242
R 193



Where did you get this info?
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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2010, 08:24:37 PM »

Yes, 1968 posted above was of D/R only.

Including Wallace districts:
D  159
R   229
Wallace 46
namely, all 8 AL; AR 1,2,4; FL 1-3; GA 1-3, 6-10; LA 1, 4-8; all 5 MS; NC 1-3, 7; SC 3, 5; TN 5-8; TX 2; VA 4-5
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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2010, 09:58:13 PM »

Good work, datamaven. Does anyone have maps of 1960s CDs to locate the CDs Wallace won?
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2010, 01:39:12 AM »

Modified my post above to include 1968. This was one election where arguably the district system would've helped Democrats as it puts Nixon closer to the magic 270 number, so with the Democratic control of the House this might have made a Humphrey victory more likely (though the other possibility is Nixon cuts a deal with Wallace to get his electors to support him).

Otherwise the district system is always good for Republicans except when they win a decisive victory (1988 sized or larger).
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2010, 08:28:31 AM »

We need maps Grin
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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2010, 08:15:50 PM »

Thank you very much. Where did you get this information?
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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2010, 04:38:30 PM »

I have updated the count for 1976 although it still isn't complete:

Dem 209
Rep 205

Missing districts:  NH both; OK 4-6; TX 3,5,6,16,21,24; WA all; WV 1-2.
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« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2010, 11:11:19 PM »

I have updated the count for 1976 although it still isn't complete:

Dem 209
Rep 205

Missing districts:  NH both; OK 4-6; TX 3,5,6,16,21,24; WA all; WV 1-2.

I can tell you who carried all of those missing ones from my 1980 Almanac.

NH-01:  Ford
NH-02:  Ford

OK-04:  Carter
OK-05:  Ford
OK-06:  Ford
TX-03:  Ford
TX-05:  Carter
TX-06:  Ford
TX-16:  Ford
TX-21:  Ford
TX-24:  Carter
WA-01:  Ford
WA-02:  Ford
WA-03:  Carter
WA-04:  Ford
WA-05:  Ford
WA-06:  Carter
WA-07:  Carter
WV-01:  Carter
WV-02:  Carter
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2010, 02:33:24 AM »

Yes, 1968 posted above was of D/R only.

Including Wallace districts:
D  159
R   229
Wallace 46
namely, all 8 AL; AR 1,2,4; FL 1-3; GA 1-3, 6-10; LA 1, 4-8; all 5 MS; NC 1-3, 7; SC 3, 5; TN 5-8; TX 2; VA 4-5

In Georgia, Im assuming GA-04 went for Nixon and GA-05 for Humpherey.  In Florida, probably the only seat that went for Humpherey was the Bill Lehman seat in Dade.  In Louisiana, I assume LA-02 went for Humpherey.  In North Carolina, maybe NC-04 went for Humpherey.  In VA-02 was the only one to go for Humpherey.  In Texas, Humpherey probably won most districts except for the suburban ones. I think he even one what is now Chet Edwards' district.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2010, 03:43:49 PM »

Yes, 1968 posted above was of D/R only.

Including Wallace districts:
D  159
R   229
Wallace 46
namely, all 8 AL; AR 1,2,4; FL 1-3; GA 1-3, 6-10; LA 1, 4-8; all 5 MS; NC 1-3, 7; SC 3, 5; TN 5-8; TX 2; VA 4-5

In Georgia, Im assuming GA-04 went for Nixon and GA-05 for Humpherey.  In Florida, probably the only seat that went for Humpherey was the Bill Lehman seat in Dade.  In Louisiana, I assume LA-02 went for Humpherey.  In North Carolina, maybe NC-04 went for Humpherey.  In VA-02 was the only one to go for Humpherey.  In Texas, Humpherey probably won most districts except for the suburban ones. I think he even one what is now Chet Edwards' district.

Yes. Yes.  FL 11 only HHH seat.  Yes. Wrong.  NC4 Nixon.  Yes.  HHH won TX 1, 6, 8-12, 14-17, 20, 23.

What almanac are you referring to for 1976 CD presidential results?  AAP 1978 & 1980 does not have those districts.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2010, 08:49:39 PM »

Yes, 1968 posted above was of D/R only.

Including Wallace districts:
D  159
R   229
Wallace 46
namely, all 8 AL; AR 1,2,4; FL 1-3; GA 1-3, 6-10; LA 1, 4-8; all 5 MS; NC 1-3, 7; SC 3, 5; TN 5-8; TX 2; VA 4-5

In Georgia, Im assuming GA-04 went for Nixon and GA-05 for Humpherey.  In Florida, probably the only seat that went for Humpherey was the Bill Lehman seat in Dade.  In Louisiana, I assume LA-02 went for Humpherey.  In North Carolina, maybe NC-04 went for Humpherey.  In VA-02 was the only one to go for Humpherey.  In Texas, Humpherey probably won most districts except for the suburban ones. I think he even one what is now Chet Edwards' district.

Yes. Yes.  FL 11 only HHH seat.  Yes. Wrong.  NC4 Nixon.  Yes.  HHH won TX 1, 6, 8-12, 14-17, 20, 23.

What almanac are you referring to for 1976 CD presidential results?  AAP 1978 & 1980 does not have those districts.

Thanks.  I have the Barone one.  Many of these districts were basically the same in the 1960's as the 70's.  I am just guessing how they voted in 1968 by the counties in the districts.  I also know that in 1968, both CO-01 and CO-03 went for Humpherey.  CO-03 went for him by around 75 votes.  In Kentucky, im pretty sure KY-03 and KY-07 went for Humphrey and likely KY-01 as well.  Am I right?
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2010, 09:28:41 PM »

Colorado 1 went for Humphrey; Colorado 3 went for Nixon by 7307 votes.  All three of the Kentucky districts you mentioned went for Humphrey.    You still haven't said what your source is for the presidential vote in 1976 for the districts I am missing.  It is not in AAP 78 or 80 for those districts.
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2010, 10:11:23 PM »

Colorado 1 went for Humphrey; Colorado 3 went for Nixon by 7307 votes.  All three of the Kentucky districts you mentioned went for Humphrey.    You still haven't said what your source is for the presidential vote in 1976 for the districts I am missing.  It is not in AAP 78 or 80 for those districts.

They are in the 82 book. 
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2010, 10:25:01 PM »

Colorado 1 went for Humphrey; Colorado 3 went for Nixon by 7307 votes.  All three of the Kentucky districts you mentioned went for Humphrey.    You still haven't said what your source is for the presidential vote in 1976 for the districts I am missing.  It is not in AAP 78 or 80 for those districts.

I was thinking CO-03 after the 1971 redistricting.  They made the seat more Democratic in order to create CO-05 for Repubicans by removing Colorado Springs and Humphrey won the new post 1971 CO-03 by around 80 votes.  Same states like Indiana and California were changed so much in 1971 redistricting that I cant even begin to estimate how those districts voted.  All I can say is that IN-01 would have voted for Humphrey.  I assume Humphrey carried every district in Massachussetts except for the possible exception of MA-11.   Both Maine districts went for Humphrey.  OK-02, OK-03, and possibly OK-04 went for Humphrey.   In Maryland the only district to go for Humphrey would have been MD-07 and probably MD-08, even though he narrowly won the state.   In Missouri, MO-01, MO-03, and MO-05 surely went for Humphrey with a good chance of MO-08 doing so as well.   In Ohio, I can say for sure than OH-03 went for Humphrey.  In Minnesota, Humphrey carried every district but MN-03 and possibly MN-01.  In Oregon, Humphrey carried OR-03 and maybe OR-01.

Am I right?
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2010, 06:40:21 PM »

In Maine, Humphrey won the 1st 55-43 and the 2nd 55-43 too.  He won every MA district, closest one being the 12th (53-43).  In Oklahoma, Humphrey got the 3rd 39-35, but lost the 2nd 45-34 and the 4th 41-37.  He did pretty poorly in the other districts.  In Maryland, Humphrey won the 7th and 8th, and also won the 5th 42-41.  In Missouri, Humphrey only won the 1st, 3rd, and 5th.  The 8th (which no longer exists) went Nixon 54-36.  Other districts went for Nixon by much smaller margins; the 2nd 46-43, the 4th 48-40, the 6th 49-41, the 9th 45-42, and the 10th (which is now the 8th) 42-39.  In Minnesota, Nixon win the 2nd 50-46.  Humphrey won the rest.  In Oregon, Humphrey won the 3rd.  The 1st voted Nixon 54-41.  In Ohio, Humphrey won the 3rd, 9th, 13th, 14th, and 18th-22nd.  This is all according to the 1974 almanac, which used the 1970s versions of the districts.  Some of them changed a lot, but others might not have.
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2010, 07:00:00 PM »

In Maine, Humphrey won the 1st 55-43 and the 2nd 55-43 too.  He won every MA district, closest one being the 12th (53-43).  In Oklahoma, Humphrey got the 3rd 39-35, but lost the 2nd 45-34 and the 4th 41-37.  He did pretty poorly in the other districts.  In Maryland, Humphrey won the 7th and 8th, and also won the 5th 42-41.  In Missouri, Humphrey only won the 1st, 3rd, and 5th.  The 8th (which no longer exists) went Nixon 54-36.  Other districts went for Nixon by much smaller margins; the 2nd 46-43, the 4th 48-40, the 6th 49-41, the 9th 45-42, and the 10th (which is now the 8th) 42-39.  In Minnesota, Nixon win the 2nd 50-46.  Humphrey won the rest.  In Oregon, Humphrey won the 3rd.  The 1st voted Nixon 54-41.  In Ohio, Humphrey won the 3rd, 9th, 13th, 14th, and 18th-22nd.  This is all according to the 1974 almanac, which used the 1970s versions of the districts.  Some of them changed a lot, but others might not have.

Thanks.  I also wonder about Wisconsin in 1968.  Humphrey won the old WI-04 and WI-05 for sure, probably won WI-02, and had an outside chance of winning WI-07 but probably did not.
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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2010, 11:06:50 PM »

Did McGovern win the 7th in Washington?  Or did he loose in narrowly?
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2010, 11:08:28 PM »

Did McGovern win the 7th in Washington?  Or did he loose in narrowly?

McGovern actually lost WA-07 by 12 points. 
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« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2010, 11:12:46 PM »

Did McGovern win the 7th in Washington?  Or did he loose in narrowly?

McGovern actually lost WA-07 by 12 points. 


OMG.  So he lost the city of Seattle?  Or did it only cover some of Seattle at the time?
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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2010, 12:24:59 AM »

Did McGovern win the 7th in Washington?  Or did he loose in narrowly?

McGovern actually lost WA-07 by 12 points. 


OMG.  So he lost the city of Seattle?  Or did it only cover some of Seattle at the time?

The district included all of Seattle plus more of suburban King county, which went heavily for Nixon.
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2010, 01:31:09 AM »

Did McGovern win the 7th in Washington?  Or did he loose in narrowly?

McGovern actually lost WA-07 by 12 points. 


OMG.  So he lost the city of Seattle?  Or did it only cover some of Seattle at the time?

The district included all of Seattle plus more of suburban King county, which went heavily for Nixon.

Interesting.  How big was the Suburben vote? 

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« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2011, 03:49:58 PM »

just bumping this thread. 1968 is the race I would be interested in. I would like to see the number of majority Nixon districts (50+%), majority Humphrey districts, and the number of majority Wallace districts, as well as the number of stalemate districts (where neither candidate got above 50%).
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