Northeast Assembly Thread

[Lincoln Republican]

Still, my proposed amendment to Article II Section 6, referring specifically to the impeachment of the Governor, makes this article and section absolutely clear under what criteria the Governor can be impeached by a vote of two thirds of the Assembly.

[Cincinnatus]

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Can't really impeach someone following them having been found guilty.  Impeachment involves guilt, followed by the removal from office. 

Will this amendment suffice?

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Governor, I don't think your text actually describes an "impeachable" offense in the manner you want.  Nathan, if you'd accept this amendment instead, you are able to withdraw your own so that we don't have to vote on it, and can move onto a final vote (tomorrow morning).

[Lincoln Republican]

Yes Mr. Speaker.  I agree with your proposed wording for Article II, Section 6.

Thank you.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Mr. Speaker, you did not say whether my amendment was friendly or unfriendly.  Is it friendly?

[Cincinnatus]

Mr. Speaker, you did not say whether my amendment was friendly or unfriendly.  Is it friendly?

Forgive me.  I meant to address you when I mistakenly addressed Nathan. 

[Cincinnatus]

Amendments;

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Status; Origination.  Incorporated

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Status; Friendly.  Incorporated

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Status;  Origination.  Incorporated

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Status;  Origination.  Withdrawn

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Status;  Friendly.  Incorporated

[Cincinnatus]

Debate has ended.  This proposal will now come to a final vote.  A super majority is required to pass this constitution in the Assembly.  Voting will last 24 hours;

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[Cincinnatus]

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[Cincinnatus]

Aye

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Aye

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

This is a bad time to ask, but does the Lt. Governor do much of anything, or does he just do what the Governor tells him to do?  Can he vote in the GA?

[Napoleon]

This is a bad time to ask, but does the Lt. Governor do much of anything, or does he just do what the Governor tells him to do?  Can he vote in the GA?

The LG is an Assemblyman now.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Why do I have a really bad feeling it's going to be just two people passing this thing?

[Cincinnatus]

Somehow I'm disappointed, yet not in the least bit surprised.  We had the votes to really do something here, and blew it.  Perhaps I should resign as Speaker if that would mean some progress?  In any case, I hope those who failed to vote have a decent excuse.  Otherwise, I hope there's enough challengers to vote you out in the next election.  I don't expect the vote to be missed if I introduce it again, with the amendments incorporated..

Oh, and since I can't technically close voting before 24 hours, I won't be able to until I come home tonight.  I'm sure that's not a problem, as voting/debating isn't really this bodies forte.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Aye.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Somehow I'm disappointed, yet not in the least bit surprised.  We had the votes to really do something here, and blew it.  Perhaps I should resign as Speaker if that would mean some progress?  In any case, I hope those who failed to vote have a decent excuse.  Otherwise, I hope there's enough challengers to vote you out in the next election.  I don't expect the vote to be missed if I introduce it again, with the amendments incorporated..

Oh, and since I can't technically close voting before 24 hours, I won't be able to until I come home tonight.  I'm sure that's not a problem, as voting/debating isn't really this bodies forte.

No, you've been doing a fine job as Speaker.  Don't blame yourself.  If people don't want to vote or debate, they won't vote or debate.  It's their loss.

Does this thing have to get a supermajority of the votes cast, or a supermajority of the entire GA?  If it's of the entire GA, including the people who didn't even vote, that's a crappy deal.

[Napoleon]

It is a blessing in disguise really.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

It is a blessing in disguise really.

How so?

[Napoleon]

It is a blessing in disguise really.

How so?

I don't think it would be likely to pass on a standalone September ballot due to turnout...trying again for the October ballot offers a better chance for passing.

[Cincinnatus]

Voting has ended.  The constitution has failed to attain a supermajority, and thus fails.

Debate will now begin on The Northeast Loan Administration Act, introduced by the Gentleman from CT.  Debate will last 48 hours.

The Northeast Loan Administration Act

A BILL that will establish a loan-guarantee program for encouraging lending by backers (bank and non-bank lending institutions) and promoting job creation

1. This program may be referred to as 'The Northeast Loan Administration' or 'NLA'

2. The Northeast government will save $15 billion dollars and deposit it into a loan-guarantee program

3. The program will guarantee Northeast banks 75% of the loans that are issued to people, schools, student loans, businesses, hospitals, colleges, mortgages, and other entities

4. Loans must be $5 million or less to be eligible

5. Money will be guaranteed to all legal and valid loans from banks and non-bank lending institutions

6. Each loan will be checked to ensure its legality and approved by the NLA administrators before money is guaranteed

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Just to sum up what I wrote about this earlier: basically, the idea is to make lenders feel certain that they'll get all or most of their money back by having the Northeast government guarantee them 75% of it, in case a person or entity can no longer pay a loan back.  More lending will mean new businesses can start and old ones can expand.  This will create millions of new jobs for the region.

[Napoleon]

Isn't this what led to the current economic situation?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Isn't this what led to the current economic situation?

Well, basically, this would help prevent that from happening again.  It's very similar to how the Small Business Administration works.  The bank gets money back, no matter what, and so they are risking less by lending to people.

[Napoleon]

This is just my two cents, but perhaps lowering the 15 billion to something less would be more suitable. If we see success, we can expand the program. The banks have an incentive to loan by having 75% guaranteed but also an incentive to make the right loans as to not lose the other 25%. Obviously that is a good thing. I also suggest removing other entities to protect against fraud. Add more to the list if you like but don't leave it that open ended.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

This is just my two cents, but perhaps lowering the 15 billion to something less would be more suitable. If we see success, we can expand the program. The banks have an incentive to loan by having 75% guaranteed but also an incentive to make the right loans as to not lose the other 25%. Obviously that is a good thing. I also suggest removing other entities to protect against fraud. Add more to the list if you like but don't leave it that open ended.

I have the limit at 75% so that we don't spend all the money in the program too quickly.  Would you suggest raising it to 100% and lowering the $15 billion?

All eligible loans already need to be approved by the program in case of fraud, so I don't think we need to remove that part.