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« Reply #1550 on: January 29, 2010, 09:30:14 AM »

I'm not really a fan of either provisions of this bill.
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« Reply #1551 on: January 29, 2010, 12:20:19 PM »

Damn it. Another disappointing defeat. Sad
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« Reply #1552 on: January 29, 2010, 12:21:24 PM »

Does someone want to make a motion to end debate as of 11PM Eastern on Saturday, instead of 2AM on Sunday?  I don't like opening votes at 2AM - I can't guarantee I'll be around.

Yes, I do. There's not so much to say for that.
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« Reply #1553 on: January 29, 2010, 01:46:00 PM »

We should. now adressing the second part of the bill, when you say "a gun is used as an instrument in the crime" do you mean in the room or area just laying around? or what?

 
Does someone want to make a motion to end debate as of 11PM Eastern on Saturday, instead of 2AM on Sunday?  I don't like opening votes at 2AM - I can't guarantee I'll be around.
we can do that. Smiley
The gun helps the perp commit the crime. Whether that is used in murder, robbery, kidnapping, ETC. If the gun is essential to the perpetrator (IE being used through intimidation or assault) it will tack on an additional penalty.

Does someone want to make a motion to end debate as of 11PM Eastern on Saturday, instead of 2AM on Sunday?  I don't like opening votes at 2AM - I can't guarantee I'll be around.
I also support ending debate at 11PM.
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« Reply #1554 on: January 29, 2010, 02:49:03 PM »

We should. now adressing the second part of the bill, when you say "a gun is used as an instrument in the crime" do you mean in the room or area just laying around? or what?

 
Does someone want to make a motion to end debate as of 11PM Eastern on Saturday, instead of 2AM on Sunday?  I don't like opening votes at 2AM - I can't guarantee I'll be around.
we can do that. Smiley
The gun helps the perp commit the crime. Whether that is used in murder, robbery, kidnapping, ETC. If the gun is essential to the perpetrator (IE being used through intimidation or assault) it will tack on an additional penalty.

Does someone want to make a motion to end debate as of 11PM Eastern on Saturday, instead of 2AM on Sunday?  I don't like opening votes at 2AM - I can't guarantee I'll be around.
I also support ending debate at 11PM.
ok. So essentailly how CA does it.
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« Reply #1555 on: January 29, 2010, 03:37:16 PM »

Alright, out of the way everyone. Big Daddy is barging his way into the Assembly!

I would like to take this time to present to you, something horrible, but delicious at the same time. Yes, its the budget. I've based my numbers off of those GM Purple State had announced earlier. Also, I would like to note that I have not used of our funds, I have put some aside for a rainy day fund, since we can not be sure how the next year is going to turn out. I would also like to ask that you not pay too much attention to the "last year" figures, as those are from the last budget put forward, which I presented sometime in late 2007 to early 2008. Without further babling, here is the new budget.

2010-2011 Northeast Budget

State Populations: 49

Connecticut (1)
Delaware (1)
Maine (6) - 
Massachusetts (6)
New Jersey (6)
New Hampshire (3)
New York (11)
Pennsylvania ( 8 )
Rhode Island (4)
Vermont (3)



Northeast Budget:

State                                      Revenue (In Millions)
Connecticut                            $28,495    ($15,918) -2
Delaware                               $6,950      ($15,918) No Change
Maine                                     $8,642      ($92,174) +5
Massachusetts                       $31,285    ($92,174) +3
New Jersey                             $45,785    ($92,174) +1
New Hampshire                      $17,890    ($47,754) No Change
New York                                $78,801    ($175,098) +6
Pennsylvania                          $62,375    ($127,344) +2
Rhode Island                          $7,400      ($63,672) +3
Vermont                                 $15,482     ($47,772) No Change

TOTAL                          $303,105 last year   $769,998 Projected

Expenditures (In Millions)

Law Enforcment/Military             $96.0    $190,500
Education                                   $66.5    $128,650
Health Care                                $56.4    $59,900
Local Government                      $28.00   $145,234
Environment                               $15.8    $105,737
Infrastructure                             $9.8     $43,825
 
TOTAL                                       $278.70    $673,846

Remaining                                       $96,152


Well, there it is. I know it looks cruel and all, but we had to get it all done. I would like to thank frm Lt. Governor Barnes, and Northeast Rep. Whacky Hack for helping to review this a little bit before it came forward.
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« Reply #1556 on: January 29, 2010, 03:42:15 PM »

Law Enforcment/Military             $96.0    $190,500

Why so much ? Huh
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« Reply #1557 on: January 29, 2010, 05:07:16 PM »

in case we get another bush in America and he decides to try to attack Atlasia. Tongue
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« Reply #1558 on: January 29, 2010, 05:13:16 PM »


Because this has to fund every City Officers, County Sheriffs, State Police, and National Guards for the largest region in Atlasia.
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« Reply #1559 on: January 29, 2010, 05:20:50 PM »


Because this has to fund every City Officers, County Sheriffs, State Police, and National Guards for the largest region in Atlasia.

Does that money go to fire departments as well?
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« Reply #1560 on: January 29, 2010, 05:39:37 PM »


Because this has to fund every City Officers, County Sheriffs, State Police, and National Guards for the largest region in Atlasia.

Does that money go to fire departments as well?

Yes and no.  They partially fund volunteer fire departments (such as newer equipment if requested, and some building costs), but most volunteer departments depend on funds from local government, and contributions. Regular local run employee departments are funded in this as well. I forgot to mention that.
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« Reply #1561 on: January 30, 2010, 02:43:15 PM »

On the Northeast Gun Safety Act -  under current law, I can only see one situation where the automatic restoration at age 35 matters - where a federal judge has decreed someone who has committed a federal felony lose their federal gun rights for life.  I don't see why we should be second-guessing a court's determination - or creating a wedge between Atlasian federal and Northeast law.

As to the increased penalties, what's so special about a gun that shouldn't apply to someone who commits a crime using a knife or some other violent weapon.  Plus, how can this possibly apply to misdemeanors?  It would make them felonies.
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« Reply #1562 on: January 30, 2010, 03:39:23 PM »

On the Northeast Gun Safety Act -  under current law, I can only see one situation where the automatic restoration at age 35 matters - where a federal judge has decreed someone who has committed a federal felony lose their federal gun rights for life.  I don't see why we should be second-guessing a court's determination - or creating a wedge between Atlasian federal and Northeast law.

As to the increased penalties, what's so special about a gun that shouldn't apply to someone who commits a crime using a knife or some other violent weapon.  Plus, how can this possibly apply to misdemeanors?  It would make them felonies.

I understand the frustration with "liberal" judges, I really do.  But minimum sentencing is even more frustrating.
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« Reply #1563 on: January 30, 2010, 04:00:26 PM »

On the Northeast Gun Safety Act -  under current law, I can only see one situation where the automatic restoration at age 35 matters - where a federal judge has decreed someone who has committed a federal felony lose their federal gun rights for life.  I don't see why we should be second-guessing a court's determination - or creating a wedge between Atlasian federal and Northeast law.

As to the increased penalties, what's so special about a gun that shouldn't apply to someone who commits a crime using a knife or some other violent weapon.  Plus, how can this possibly apply to misdemeanors?  It would make them felonies.

Isn't federal law superior to regional?
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« Reply #1564 on: January 30, 2010, 11:00:00 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2010, 11:06:54 PM by cinyc »



Seeing no amendments, it is now time to vote on final passage of the following bill:

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This vote will be open until the earlier of 11:00PM Eastern on Sunday, January 31, 2010, or when all Representatives shall have cast a vote.

Note: we will take up the budget next.  Technically, it needs to be approved in January - but I don't think we're going to vote on it until February 1 at the earliest, if we go with a 24-hour debate period.
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« Reply #1565 on: January 30, 2010, 11:17:50 PM »

Since I want to sense of my bill be preserved and I don't see much harm (there's always a rehabilitation)...

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« Reply #1566 on: January 30, 2010, 11:57:45 PM »

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« Reply #1567 on: January 31, 2010, 12:59:38 AM »

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« Reply #1568 on: January 31, 2010, 01:15:38 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #1569 on: January 31, 2010, 01:22:24 AM »

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« Reply #1570 on: January 31, 2010, 01:50:42 AM »

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« Reply #1571 on: January 31, 2010, 02:28:45 AM »

Just letting you guys know, if you have any questions for me on the budget, I'll be watching the discussion. You can also PM me.
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« Reply #1572 on: January 31, 2010, 05:13:42 AM »

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« Reply #1573 on: January 31, 2010, 10:30:53 AM »

Just letting you guys know, if you have any questions for me on the budget, I'll be watching the discussion. You can also PM me.

As will I. I also would like to thank the GM for lending his time for any discussions on the budget.
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« Reply #1574 on: January 31, 2010, 11:05:27 PM »



By a vote of 5-2 with 1 absence, the Northeast Gun Safety Act  passes and will be sent to the Governor for his approval or veto.

Next, unless there is an objection, we will take up Gov. AndrewCT's proposed budget:

2010-2011 Northeast Budget

State Populations: 49

Connecticut (1)
Delaware (1)
Maine (6) -  
Massachusetts (6)
New Jersey (6)
New Hampshire (3)
New York (11)
Pennsylvania ( 8 )
Rhode Island (4)
Vermont (3)



Northeast Budget:

State                                      Revenue (In Millions)
Connecticut                            $28,495    ($15,918) -2
Delaware                               $6,950      ($15,918) No Change
Maine                                     $8,642      ($92,174) +5
Massachusetts                       $31,285    ($92,174) +3
New Jersey                             $45,785    ($92,174) +1
New Hampshire                      $17,890    ($47,754) No Change
New York                                $78,801    ($175,098) +6
Pennsylvania                          $62,375    ($127,344) +2
Rhode Island                          $7,400      ($63,672) +3
Vermont                                 $15,482     ($47,772) No Change

TOTAL                          $303,105 last year   $769,998 Projected

Expenditures (In Millions)

Law Enforcment/Military             $96.0    $190,500
Education                                   $66.5    $128,650
Health Care                                $56.4    $59,900
Local Government                      $28.00   $145,234
Environment                               $15.8    $105,737
Infrastructure                             $9.8     $43,825
 
TOTAL                                       $278.70    $673,846

Remaining                                       $96,152


Debate on the budget shall remain open until 11:05PM on Tuesday, February 2, 2010, unless shortened or lengthened in accordance with the SOAP.

Gov. AndrewCT has the floor, if he so chooses.
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