Northeast Assembly Thread

[Purple State]

FTR, I've been on mod review before and haven't done anything to warrant it again (or else I'd be on it, obviously).

While on mod review, I was able to get many racist posts approved that were deleted  by another mod later. So I'm not sure that system, is very worthwhile.

In other words, you're saying that you should be banned.  Gotcha.

No, I'm saying the moderators are either A. approving posts that shouldn't be or B. deleting posts that shouldn't be. Either way the mods suck.

I don't see what a ban would do.

A ban would make sure that neither option A nor option B occur. It is a perfect solution.

[Purple State]

FTR, I've been on mod review before and haven't done anything to warrant it again (or else I'd be on it, obviously).

While on mod review, I was able to get many racist posts approved that were deleted  by another mod later. So I'm not sure that system, is very worthwhile.

In other words, you're saying that you should be banned.  Gotcha.

No, I'm saying the moderators are either A. approving posts that shouldn't be or B. deleting posts that shouldn't be. Either way the mods suck.

I don't see what a ban would do.

A ban would make sure that neither option A nor option B occur. It is a perfect solution.

Everyone knows I'd come back.

So? If someone is a frequent shoplifter, but tells me that if I call the police he will come back and shoplift twice as much after he gets out of jail, it won't stop me from calling the police.

If you are banned, you will either come back Ogis-style and be banned very quickly or you will come back Ogis 2-style and behave yourself while flying under the radar. Either option is preferable to the status quo. This whole thing is an interesting deterrence-style game theory problem.

The order of the forum's preferences is: a) Ban, b) Ban and return under the radar, c) Ban and make a mess, d) status quo. So a>b>c>d.

Your order of preferences is, I presume: d>c>b>a.

So it looks like the equilibrium point is "c," where you will be banned and will make a mess and be re-banned. The only question is how close the forum's preferences are to Dave's. So far, they look more like yours, or maybe even a>b>d>c, which still comes out with status quo (d) as equilibrium. We will see what happens.

[Purple State]

Nothing will happen, and you're irrelevant opinion won't be making an impact, thankfully, for the forum's sake. This place needs me.

I don't think my opinion will impact the judgement of the mods or Dave. I never implied that, nor would I ever think of doing so.

As for the forum needing you, I can only laugh. You contribute almost nothing substantive to the game or the forum at-large. Maybe you can turn out numbers, but in terms of quality you actually detract from the overall experience here. The frequent purging of your posts from Atlasia has been quite nice actually. In anything, this place needs to be rid of you.

[cinyc]

1) FWIW, I have a real big issue with the policy of deleting all posts made by posters defined as trolls (and creating such guidelines in the first place).  

2) I don't think it's successful because neither moderator or Dave Leip are on the board 24 hours a day and this encourages trolls to spam the boards during the times they aren't here because, well, they can get away with it.

3) Either you place a poster on mod review ("as a troll") such that legitimate posts get through but spamming is prevented or you ban the poster.

4) I think post moderation is becoming too overactive now because of the Post Moderation board, although it does make it easier to respond to complaints.  But seriously, should my post be deleted if I call NCYankee a schizophrenic or bipolar?  I don't think so, after all it is the truth and it's kinda funny too.

5) The reason why #1 and #4 are occurring is because Dave Leip refuses to engage in #3 and, as I have predicted and will continue to predict, most people will think him more unfair for engaging in #1 and #4 than if he had engaged in #3 to begin with.

6) Preventing moderators from deleting posts on these two boards is not the Supreme Court's responsibility which is why we denied your petition.

I respectfully disagree with your point 6.   The posts on this thread are posts of the Northeast Assembly.   They are vital to the functioning of Atlasia as a game, not like the rest of the stuff on this board other than the Mideast Assembly and NE Proposed Legislation threads.   The other posts on this board are commentary or polls or something else worth less to the game.   Unfortunately, the Northeast Legislature doesn't have its own board or sub-board, so we're left with moderation by default by the same moderators based on alleged transgressions in posts that have nothing to do with how Assemblymen conduct themselves in the legislature.  Mideast and Midwest residents shouldn't be dictating how the Northeast conducts its legislative business.  In an ideal world, the Lt. Governor or, in his absence (like right now), the Northeast Speaker would be responsible for controlling the debate on a separate Northeast Assembly board.
 
Speaking of which - Order! Northeast Representatives shall refrain from personal attacks in this Assembly!

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Audience goes wild....

[Antonio the Sixth]

FTR, I oppose deleting cinyc posts, and I consider that as an useless abuse of power.
Anyways, could we please come back in topic ?

[Sam Spade]

Nothing will happen, and you're irrelevant opinion won't be making an impact, thankfully, for the forum's sake. This place needs me.

Adios, muchachos, adios...

[MasterJedi]

Hamilton has been banned. You can commence to get rid of him now if that doesn't automatically happen.

[AndrewTX]

Hamilton has been banned. You can commence to get rid of him now if that doesn't automatically happen.

How long is he banned for?

[segwaystyle2012]

Hamilton has been banned. You can commence to get rid of him now if that doesn't automatically happen.

How long is he banned for?

He told me he was banned forever.

[MasterJedi]

Hamilton has been banned. You can commence to get rid of him now if that doesn't automatically happen.

How long is he banned for?

Permenantly. Though I hear he has 6-10+ accounts in waiting from reliable sources.

[Antonio the Sixth]

He will be back, and sooner than you can say "IP check".

[segwaystyle2012]

Hamilton has been banned. You can commence to get rid of him now if that doesn't automatically happen.

How long is he banned for?

Permenantly. Though I hear he has 6-10+ accounts in waiting from reliable sources.

I just asked and he said he only has one.

[MasterJedi]

He wil be back, and sooner than you can say "IP check".

That's why I've said in the trolllist thread let me know about suspicious accounts or really any new accounts registering or posting and I can check them out or get others to check them out.

[MasterJedi]

Well news from up high is that 4 of his sock accounts were never activated and then deleted today.

[AndrewTX]

Damn.. okay.. I gotta figure out what to do. I know that he wanted to resign and get GJ into his seat, but not sure if he did that or not. If he didnt, we will have to wait to get an appointment in.

[Antonio the Sixth]

He wil be back, and sooner than you can say "IP check".

That's why I've said in the trolllist thread let me know about suspicious accounts or really any new accounts registering or posting and I can check them out or get others to check them out.

Best luck to all of you, you will have to work very hard next days...

[segwaystyle2012]

Damn.. okay.. I gotta figure out what to do. I know that he wanted to resign and get GJ into his seat, but not sure if he did that or not. If he didnt, we will have to wait to get an appointment in.

I am still open to serving but I don't want my friendship with him to be a hindrance to anything or anyone else.

[cinyc]

FTR, I oppose deleting cinyc posts, and I consider that as an useless abuse of power.
Anyways, could we please come back in topic ?

Yes.  Do you have an agreement with Rep. Mr. Moderate on the final text of the bill?  If so, I'd like to put it to a vote, seeing no unfriendly amendments on the floor.  Otherwise, I'm going to have to put Mr. Moderate's amendment on the floor.  Please post it ASAP.

Former Rep. Hamilton's proposed amendment is dead since I don't have the text and can't recreate it.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I tend to favor Rep. Moderate's text overall. However, after I expressed some precise concerns, he said :

I'll revise my version of the bill a little later.

So, I'd wish to see Rep. Moderate's new revision to deem it as friendly.

If we can't do anything to extend the debate period, I will deem Mr Moderate's Amendment as friendly anyways.

[cinyc]

I tend to favor Rep. Moderate's text overall. However, after I expressed some precise concerns, he said :

I'll revise my version of the bill a little later.

So, I'd wish to see Rep. Moderate's new revision to deem it as friendly.

If we can't do anything to extend the debate period, I will deem Mr Moderate's Amendment as friendly anyways.

I will hold off until 8PM tonight in hopes Mr. Moderate can finalize the language.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Damn.. okay.. I gotta figure out what to do. I know that he wanted to resign and get GJ into his seat, but not sure if he did that or not. If he didnt, we will have to wait to get an appointment in.

Governor, since Hamilton has been banished from Atlasia, the seat is simply vacant.

[cinyc]

The proceedings have been delayed long enough.  Since there's no agreement despite two extensions provided to get one, we will vote on Mr. Moderate's amendment as if it were unfriendly:
 

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This vote shall be held open until 8:10 PM on Thursday, January 14, 2010, unless all Representatives shall have voted sooner.  A vote on the final bill will proceed shortly thereafter.

[Sewer]

aye

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

There are parts that aren't so bad, but Nay.