Northeast Assembly Thread

[Dr. Cynic]

I don't need to have sympathy for overeaters, let alone have the government not work with those who don't hire a huge person. Next we know the government is going to have to super size everything.

This is not about sympathy, but about justice.

Size and smell are both choices.

Lose weight and take a shower.

Obesity is an illness.

An illness one brings upon oneself by making poor personal choices. There are consequences to be faced. A company shouldn't be forced to bear the burden because a potential employee can't fit through their front door.

In the case you didn't knew that, overeating isn't always the cause of obesity.

This bill says size, not obesity. Some companies mightnot even own equipment these big/tall/short people can operate. Obesity is a choice. If it is causedby someother precondition, it would already be covered by disability. This is a useless and dangerous addition brought up by special interests.

Special interests = Looking out for one's own. Sort of like you do. So, go ahead and table the bill when the vote is finished.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

[Alexander Hamilton]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

Why are you making up 1001 lame excuses for those who make poor personal choices that burden all of society?

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

Why are you making up 1001 lame excuses for those who make poor personal choices that burden all of society?

Because I have got a brain and therefore I'm able to go beyond stupid commonplaces in the style of "fats are ugly so I don't like them".

[Dr. Cynic]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

[AndrewTX]

I have a duel problem. One is that I am supposed to have a gland that tells me when I'm full, but it doesnt. The other is I have a very slow motabalisim. I work out often, and yet still have a problem losing weight, even though I only have an intake of roughly 1200-1600 calories a day. So, is what being said here is that even though I'm a hard worker, I can be denied work because of my weight?

[Alexander Hamilton]

I have a duel problem. One is that I am supposed to have a gland that tells me when I'm full, but it doesnt. The other is I have a very slow motabalisim. I work out often, and yet still have a problem losing weight, even though I only have an intake of roughly 1200-1600 calories a day. So, is what being said here is that even though I'm a hard worker, I can be denied work because of my weight?

That would be covered by disability.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

I have a duel problem.

So did Alexander Hamilton.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

So should sumo wrestler organizations be forced to hire thin people?

[Dr. Cynic]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

So should sumo wrestler organizations be forced to hire thin people?

I've seen thin sumo wrestlers actually.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

The issue of approving unhealthy behavior has what to do with social score?

This debate is pointless at this point. No one is going to change their mind, the bill will be tabled, and we will move on to new business. Now, as it pertains to obesity, I don't really care if it is unsightly to you or not. I'm not concerned with attracting Mr. Hamilton. I am however concerned with getting overweight people equal oppertunity to jobs they've applied to. Now, if the employer feels they are not right for the job based on merits, I say don't hire 'em. If they are derelict after they are hired, fire 'em. But if you can do a job, there's no reason not to allow them or anyone else to work.

So, I will await, the Speaker's closing of the vote and for the bill to be tabled and I will enjoy the show it brings.

So should sumo wrestler organizations be forced to hire thin people?

I've seen thin sumo wrestlers actually.

That wasn't the question....

[cinyc]

Order! Why didn't we have this debate BEFORE the vote?  

Last I checked, Doctor Cynic has legislation in the queue addressing obesity issues - so any claims that he hasn't addressed the issue in separate legislation are incorrect.

The proposed amendments are still on the floor, as Rep. Mr. Moderate has yet to vote.  This vote will not close until the earlier of 8:30PM or when Rep. Mr. Moderate has voted.  Rep. Hamilton will then be entitled to withdraw the bill, if he wishes, under Section 3(e) of the SOAP.

The proposed amendments CANNOT be withdrawn at this point, since they are currently being voted upon.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Aye
Aye
Nay
Aye

[Alexander Hamilton]

Tabled.

[cinyc]

By a vote of 5-3, Proposed Amendments 1 (Rep. Mr. Moderate) and 2 (Rep. Doctor Cynic) pass.
By a vote of 1-7, Proposed Amendment 3 (Rep. Sewer Socialist) fails.
By a vote of 6-2, Proposed Amendment 4 (Rep. Kalwejt) passes.

The final bill on the floor, as amended, reads as follows:
Anti-Discrimination Act

1. The Northeast Government pledges to uphold the rights of all citizens regardless of race, gender, gender identity, socioeconomic status, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
2. The Northeast Government will hereby refuse government contracts to any company or organization which is found to discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, socioeconomic status, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.
3. The Northeast Government, in hiring, and in representation, shall not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, gender identity, socioeconomic status, sexuality, size, ethnicity, religion, and disability status.

However, as Rep. Hamilton has decided to withdraw the bill, it shall not proceed to a final vote.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Tabled.

Pathetic.

[cinyc]

The next item up for bid is:

Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2010

An act to liberalise laws restricting sexual activity and to amend the Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2005

1.   In accordance with the federal Bow Chicka Bow Wow Act of 2009, All individuals 14 years of age or older shall have the right to buy, possess, and view pornography depicting only persons of 18 years of age or older.

2.   All those persons of 14 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons of 14 years up to the age of 21 years.

3.   Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 14 years of age or younger is guilty of statutory rape.

Sponsor: Rep. Hamilton

The question is whether the Bill should be considered?

The ayes have it.

Debate on this bill will continue until at least 2:50PM Eastern on Monday, January 4, 2010, unless the debate period is extended or shortened in accordance with the SOAP.

The Sponsor, Representative Alexander Hamilton, has the floor.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Tabled.

Pathetic.

if the Joe Wilson act still works I wish to use it now

[cinyc]

Tabled.

Pathetic.

if the Joe Wilson act still works I wish to use it now

Please bring up your concerns with the Governor.  This Assembly has no role in enforcing the (likely unconstitutional) Joe Wilson Act - and under that law, the Lt. Governor and Northeast Representatives have no power to do anything until the Governor has acted, anyway. 

Do you wish to speak on behalf of your bill?

[cinyc]

I would like to know what this bill is trying to accomplish - and why?  Are we mandated by federal law to change the definition of statutory rape?  Didn't we debate something like this in the Provisional Assembly session, settling on 16 instead of 14?