Northeast Assembly Thread

[Alexander Hamilton]

Can I get the opinion of-

Me? Ok, the companies that violate the Act will be dicks so a hefty fine is a good fine.

That is true.

[Smid]

This Bill doesn't give any incentive to replace trees, it only waves a big stick (pun unintentional) at companies that don't replace the trees. Therefore an exceptionally hefty punishment provides a bigger stick and I don't have a problem with that.

We should perhaps specify the tree density of an acre of trees for replacement purposes - ie, the minimum number of trees that need to be planted to replace an acre that is cleared.

[Alexander Hamilton]

That is a great point. I suppose I will have to do a bit of research to come up with a fair rate.

[cinyc]

I like cinyc's amendment, but five times sounds like a really hefty fine. Can I get the opinion of a couple other Reps?

I'm net wedded to 5 times.  It was just a first cut.  It has to be higher than the replacement cost - at least double - so that it's punitive.  How much higher is open to debate.  Triple works too.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

Could Mr Senator-to-be not forget he's also Northeast Lt Gov. and open a final vote on this bill ?

[cinyc]

Bump.

Could Mr Senator-to-be not forget he's also Northeast Lt Gov. and open a final vote on this bill ?

We still haven't agreed on the penalty.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Give me like 30 minutes and I will have my changes ready

[Barnes]

Give me like 30 minutes and I will have my changes ready

Yeah, you guys have done great work on this, don't feel rushed by me, I'm just waiting on a final Bill.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The SOAP expressly states that the debate lasts for 48 hours... And this bill has been introduced 108 hours ago.

[Barnes]

The SOAP expressly states that the debate lasts for 48 hours... And this bill has been introduced 108 hours ago.

Well, I extended the period, because there wasn't a full Bill even written up.

Because of all the Debate on this Bill, I'm extending the Debating Period.

But, today is the last day.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The SOAP expressly states that the debate lasts for 48 hours... And this bill has been introduced 108 hours ago.

Well, I extended the period, because there wasn't a full Bill even written up.

Because of all the Debate on this Bill, I'm extending the Debating Period.

But, today is the last day.

Well, you hadn't the authority to do, but anyways it doesn't matter... Just don't do again, please.

[Barnes]

Somebody, please, show me a final version of this thing.

[Dr. Cynic]

The SOAP expressly states that the debate lasts for 48 hours... And this bill has been introduced 108 hours ago.

Well, I extended the period, because there wasn't a full Bill even written up.

Because of all the Debate on this Bill, I'm extending the Debating Period.

But, today is the last day.

Well, you hadn't the authority to do, but anyways it doesn't matter... Just don't do again, please.

Actually, my friend, as presiding officer, he has the right to extend the debate period because the bill was still being debated upon. Don't get your knickers in a twist.

[Smid]

The SOAP expressly states that the debate lasts for 48 hours... And this bill has been introduced 108 hours ago.

Well, I extended the period, because there wasn't a full Bill even written up.

Because of all the Debate on this Bill, I'm extending the Debating Period.

But, today is the last day.

Well, you hadn't the authority to do, but anyways it doesn't matter... Just don't do again, please.

Actually, my friend, as presiding officer, he has the right to extend the debate period because the bill was still being debated upon. Don't get your knickers in a twist.

Precisely, and anyone who doesn't agree with his ruling as Presiding Officer has the ability to move the procedural motion: "That - The Chair's Ruling be dissented from." Then everyone can vote on it, but I think the Lt Governor has accurately determined the will of the Assembly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My purpose is not to bother anyone, but just to prevent the Assembly from getting inactive.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

If we don't go through Hamilton's blatant will to filibuster the Assembly, I'm going to sue someone or something.

[cinyc]

Bump.

If we don't go through Hamilton's blatant will to filibuster the Assembly, I'm going to sue someone or something.

I don't think it's a blatant filibuster.  I think Hamilton may have been placed on mod review again.

If we don't hear from Hamilton before 6PM today, perhaps we should hold two separate votes: The first on an amendment to the penalty provisions as follows:

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Then, on the bill itself, which currently reads:

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[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

If we don't go through Hamilton's blatant will to filibuster the Assembly, I'm going to sue someone or something.

I don't think it's a blatant filibuster.  I think Hamilton may have been placed on mod review again.

Why ?

[cinyc]

Bump.

If we don't go through Hamilton's blatant will to filibuster the Assembly, I'm going to sue someone or something.

I don't think it's a blatant filibuster.  I think Hamilton may have been placed on mod review again.

Why ?

I have no clue.  It was mentioned on one other thread - I think the Examiner results thread.

[Barnes]

Alright, I open up a vote on this Amendment:

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Vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. Voting lasts twenty-four hours.

[Smid]

Aye.

[k-onmmunist]

Aye

[Alexander Hamilton]

Nay

[cinyc]

Aye

[Barnes]

I won't be around here much, tomorrow. So Smid can close the vote on the Amendment, and then open a final vote.