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« Reply #275 on: October 14, 2009, 03:38:59 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.
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« Reply #276 on: October 14, 2009, 03:39:43 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.

You have no morals or values. Also, you're a terrible Senator. And a terrible Northeasterner. You don't eve know the current law on this issue.
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« Reply #277 on: October 14, 2009, 03:40:38 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.

You have no morals or values. Also, you're a terrible Senator. And a terrible Northeasterner. You don't eve know the current law on this issue.

Oh right, wanting young teenagers to have sex with adults is having morals, I forgot. Silly me.
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« Reply #278 on: October 14, 2009, 03:42:54 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.

You have no morals or values. Also, you're a terrible Senator. And a terrible Northeasterner. You don't eve know the current law on this issue.

Oh right, wanting young teenagers to have sex with adults is having morals, I forgot. Silly me.

16 year olds are young adults. Don't be an idiot. Maybe I'll withdraw this bill and let the 12 year olds continue having sex just to spite you.
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« Reply #279 on: October 14, 2009, 03:46:30 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.

I have a great sense of morals and values, don't care if you don't believe me. I just think morals and values are a personal question and have nothing to do with politics.
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« Reply #280 on: October 14, 2009, 04:04:31 PM »

It feels so lonely being one of the only people here with any sense of morals or values.

You have no morals or values. Also, you're a terrible Senator. And a terrible Northeasterner. You don't eve know the current law on this issue.

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It's not clear that your proposal changes this section - you don't mention it by name in the bill.
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« Reply #281 on: October 14, 2009, 04:07:15 PM »

The bill was supposed to say Section 3. The other part has nothing to do with age of consent.

I amend my own bill to read:

Amendment to the Northeast Pornography and Age of Consent Act


1. Section 3, Clause 1 is hereby amended to include "All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons of 16 years of age or older."

2. "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 17 years or younger is guilty of statutory rape." is amended to read "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person younger than the age of 16 is guilty of statutory rape."

And it's friendly.

Maybe made a typo but I think it still does the same thing anyways
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« Reply #282 on: October 14, 2009, 04:16:08 PM »

The bill was supposed to say Section 3. The other part has nothing to do with age of consent.

I amend my own bill to read:

Amendment to the Northeast Pornography and Age of Consent Act


1. Section 3, Clause 1 is hereby amended to include "All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons of 16 years of age or older."

2. "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 17 years or younger is guilty of statutory rape." is amended to read "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person younger than the age of 16 is guilty of statutory rape."

And it's friendly.

Maybe made a typo but I think it still does the same thing anyways

You're still not deleting the first clause of Section 3.

I see why current law needs to be tweaked a bit - under the law, a college senior who just turned  21 can theoretically end up going to jail for having sex with an incoming freshman who has yet to turn 18.  I'm not sure a blanket change for 16-year-olds is necessary - though it is the most common age of consent in the US.
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« Reply #283 on: October 15, 2009, 12:18:32 AM »

Bump.

I think all is clear now, but we have to wait for another entire day because of rules...
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« Reply #284 on: October 15, 2009, 12:51:42 AM »

Bump.

I think all is clear now, but we have to wait for another entire day because of rules...

Yeah - that's to make sure we all have a chance to see the legislation and propose changes - and know when we will hold a vote.  I was gone for about a day and missed the override vte since it passed by so fast.
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« Reply #285 on: October 15, 2009, 07:58:40 AM »

This is terrible. At 16 kids are still in high school. Do they go home from school and then do porn at night?

I don't want to speak for everyone, but when I was 16, yes, pretty much every moment was spent with pornography.  I mean, hello, we're talking about sixteen-year-olds.
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« Reply #286 on: October 15, 2009, 11:41:53 AM »

Bump.

I think all is clear now, but we have to wait for another entire day because of rules...

Yeah - that's to make sure we all have a chance to see the legislation and propose changes - and know when we will hold a vote.  I was gone for about a day and missed the override vte since it passed by so fast.

Anyone who is absent is responsible for being. When I was, I apologized without complaining for what I missed.
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« Reply #287 on: October 15, 2009, 06:27:38 PM »

This is terrible. At 16 kids are still in high school. Do they go home from school and then do porn at night?

I don't want to speak for everyone, but when I was 16, yes, pretty much every moment was spent with pornography.  I mean, hello, we're talking about sixteen-year-olds.

Lately, it seems like most of my conversations have been about porn. This is odd.
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« Reply #288 on: October 15, 2009, 07:46:04 PM »

The Veto Over-ride vote passed.



The question is:

That - Debate on the Economic Recovery Tax Bill 2009 be now resumed.

All of that opinion say "Aye," to the contrary, "no," I believe the Ayes have it.

Debate is resumed.
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« Reply #289 on: October 15, 2009, 10:40:31 PM »

The Veto Over-ride vote passed.

The question is:

That - Debate on the Economic Recovery Tax Bill 2009 be now resumed.

All of that opinion say "Aye," to the contrary, "no," I believe the Ayes have it.

Debate is resumed.

Actually, I think we're getting ready to vote on the age of consent bill.  I would appreciate it if my Economic Recovery Tax Bill of 2009 is taken up next, though.
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« Reply #290 on: October 15, 2009, 10:41:36 PM »

The Veto Over-ride vote passed.

The question is:

That - Debate on the Economic Recovery Tax Bill 2009 be now resumed.

All of that opinion say "Aye," to the contrary, "no," I believe the Ayes have it.

Debate is resumed.

Actually, I think we're getting ready to vote on the age of consent bill.  I would appreciate it if my Economic Recovery Tax Bill of 2009 is taken up next, though.

We need a final vote. And your bill is next.
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« Reply #291 on: October 15, 2009, 10:50:44 PM »

The Veto Over-ride vote passed.

The question is:

That - Debate on the Economic Recovery Tax Bill 2009 be now resumed.

All of that opinion say "Aye," to the contrary, "no," I believe the Ayes have it.

Debate is resumed.

Actually, I think we're getting ready to vote on the age of consent bill.  I would appreciate it if my Economic Recovery Tax Bill of 2009 is taken up next, though.

We need a final vote. And your bill is next.

That's correct. Debating on the Age of Consent Bill ends tomorrow, and then a final vote lasts for twenty-four hours. And I will be placing the Economic Recovery Tax Bill of 2009 as the next Bill to be considered.
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« Reply #292 on: October 15, 2009, 10:51:39 PM »

Can we get a final vote now? There is no debate.
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« Reply #293 on: October 15, 2009, 11:26:55 PM »

Can we get a final vote now? There is no debate.

Rep. Kalwejt  hasn't said anything since the bill was brought to the floor.  One of the reasons we have a 48-hour debate period is to allow all of us time to check in and give input on a bill.  Not every Representative is constantly online when the real world dictates otherwise.

And I still don't think you've struck the old 12-year-old age of consent close-in exception to my satisfaction.   I think you need to say something like "Section 3, Clause 1 is deleted and replaced with the following . . ." instead of "Section 3, Clause 1 is hereby amended to include . . ."
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« Reply #294 on: October 15, 2009, 11:30:25 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2009, 11:43:05 PM by NE Rep. Hamilton (PC-MA) »

Can we get a final vote now? There is no debate.

Rep. Kalwejt  hasn't said anything since the bill was brought to the floor.  One of the reasons we have a 48-hour debate period is to allow all of us time to check in and give input on a bill.  Not every Representative is constantly online when the real world dictates otherwise.

And I still don't think you've struck the old 12-year-old age of consent close-in exception to my satisfaction.   I think you need to say something like "Section 3, Clause 1 is deleted and replaced with the following . . ." instead of "Section 3, Clause 1 is hereby amended to include . . ."

Kalwejt posted a leave of absence. I'll accept your amendment as friendly.
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« Reply #295 on: October 16, 2009, 08:06:57 AM »

As I stated, my computer was broken and I was for one week off-line

Now, I'm back
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« Reply #296 on: October 16, 2009, 03:09:08 PM »

As I stated, my computer was broken and I was for one week off-line

Now, I'm back

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« Reply #297 on: October 16, 2009, 05:09:40 PM »

While I believe that the age of consent should be 15, not 16, I support the amendment to move on
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« Reply #298 on: October 17, 2009, 07:36:28 AM »

Good.

I think the idea of keeping debating is hopeless, since nobody evolved in his positions, nor had a reason to do. We should just vote it now.
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« Reply #299 on: October 17, 2009, 11:31:39 AM »

I hereby open up a final vote on this bill, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain. Voting lasts twenty-four hours.

Amendment to the Northeast Pornography and Age of Consent Act

1. Section 3, Clause 1 is deleted and replaced with the following "All those persons of 16 years of age or older, not incarcerated for crimes, shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons of 16 years of age or older."

2. "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 17 years or younger is guilty of statutory rape." is amended to read "Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person younger than the age of 16 is guilty of statutory rape."
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