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Kalwejt
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« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2009, 09:32:21 AM »

Thanks to both of you for crafting this amendment

Aye Smiley

We're not holding a vote on this right now, we're debating the Amendment. Smiley

Oh, ok Smiley

I support the amendment for two reasons I'd like to put before you

First of all, we simply don't need so large Assembly.

Second of all, this would make futher elections more competentive and thus revitalize our political life and participation in the process.
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« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2009, 07:44:42 AM »

My friends, I'm afraid I'm not the best with numbers. I think basically a simple solution would be one Assembly member for every ten registered citizens... Which would go about five for the next assembly. Wouldn't it make it a hell of a lot more simplified that way?

Since I'm horrible with numbers, it sound very reasonable
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« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2009, 08:06:40 AM »

I know I'm no longer an Assemblyman, but I'm going to use the privilege usually extended former members to access the floor.

Guys: This past regional election was a confused clusterfuck.  No one knew how many seats were up for election until after the election. That's inexcusable.  Set it at 6 (or 5, which is probably even better) and just lock the number in.  There's no need for formulas.

If five/six proves too high due to later inactivity, you can revisit the issue.

But please.  Make it a permanent-sized body.  There's no reason to make this miserably complicated for no reason other than someone's desire to see things get miserably complicated.

Hm, why not? That's good point as well.
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« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2009, 03:30:04 PM »

Yes, this is unfriendly. It seems that the battle is already lost but can not accept it just because you want to make it simpler. The argument "It's too complicated" makes no sense. As for zombies, people who want to use them will do whatever the system is.

It's not that it's too complex, it's that it's too unstable.  A legislative body needs some modicum of stability—people need to have a basic concept of how it works.  No one knew what the heck was going on after the last election, and that's a problem.

If you REALLY want the size of the Assembly tied to the size of the active population, allow for a periodic redistricting, say, twice a year.

Ok, I guess I'm not in position to impose my views.

Here is my proposal :


1. Article V Section vii) of the New Northeast Constitution is amended as follows :
2. Five Reps shall be elected. This provision can be amended by law every January and July if the Assembly considers it necessary.

I know this may sound stupid, since you proposed it, but is this friendly? Smiley

On behalf of Rep. Hamilton I have to communicate he'd accept this as a friendly only with 6 members
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« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2009, 06:09:06 PM »

I'm divided between 5 and 6
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« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2009, 06:25:16 PM »

It's not personal, Barnes, but I believe Lieutenant Governor should not be a presidig officer.

It's not good to perform at once executive and legislative duties.
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« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2009, 06:35:44 PM »

The Lieutenant Governor is an unnecessary position.

No
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« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2009, 06:47:06 PM »

It's not personal, Barnes, but I believe Lieutenant Governor should not be a presidig officer.

It's not good to perform at once executive and legislative duties.

Well, since the Lt Gove has not any other important task, I think to the contrary that it's a good thing. Smiley Many democracies do this, and it doesn't absolutely harm the Assembly's freedom.

Lieutenant Governor should be assigned with some executive duties, not beig just "a guy heartbet away"
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« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2009, 07:36:35 PM »


Have you anything to say, or are all your ideas summed up in one word like this?

I already wrote what I think about a role of lt. gov and what should it be

Please, learn to read the whole thread beforfe you start to mess with Assembly again

Thank you, sir Tongue
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« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2009, 08:19:47 PM »

It's not personal, Barnes, but I believe Lieutenant Governor should not be a presidig officer.

It's not good to perform at once executive and legislative duties.

Well, since the Lt Gove has not any other important task, I think to the contrary that it's a good thing. Smiley Many democracies do this, and it doesn't absolutely harm the Assembly's freedom.

Lieutenant Governor should be assigned with some executive duties, not beig just "a guy heartbet away"

It's not personal, Barnes, but I believe Lieutenant Governor should not be a presidig officer.

It's not good to perform at once executive and legislative duties.
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« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2009, 09:35:35 PM »

The Lt. Gov is supposed to be the person who puts passed legislation up on the Wiki.

wiki is in horrible condition
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« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2009, 10:02:17 PM »

Yep, I support this.

1. Article V Section vii) of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby repealed. Its content shall be replaced by the following :
2. Six Reps shall be elected. This provision can be modified by law every January and July if the Assembly considers it necessary.

Since there's no enough supoport for the 5 Reps and we need to lower the size, I shall support this as well
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« Reply #62 on: October 27, 2009, 08:10:31 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2009, 05:17:17 PM »

Support
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« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2009, 08:11:57 PM »

Rep. Hamilton asked me to delare here that he proposes capping the salaries of those who work at companies who accept stimulus funds from the region.

To admins: Maybe enought with this mod, you harmed legislatuive work Angry
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« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2009, 02:55:11 PM »

Dear Mr. President

I hereby resigning the office of Northeast Representative, with immediate effect

Sincerely,
Kalwejt
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« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2009, 10:53:36 PM »

I'd like, for the end, to make a final explanation.

Time spend there, especially in the first Assembly, was one of the greatest things in my forum live, perhaps even greatest.

It's not that I'm mad or something on anyone. But my RL schedulde is busy and, at least for few next months, it would be really difficult to me to carry out normal work as a Representative. As of other reasons mentioned, I was bitter for a while and added them to the list. Yet, RL was the deciding factor. Sorry guys, but my studies have to come first now.

I'm sorry for suddenly of this decision. In fact, I've been thinking on that for few last days.

Because I'm rather unorganized man, esspecially when it comes to my plans, I moved to Alaska not because I'm dissapointed with Northeast (hell no!), but, due to recent registration restrictions, to not have a point of return for few months.

Keep your excellent work!
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« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2009, 07:37:58 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2009, 03:01:00 PM »


Assuming I have the powers granted to those in the Atlasian Senate when replacing a sitting member in the middle of a vote, I get to overwrite this.

And I do so by voting nay.

My reappointment was rules invalid, so don't bother
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« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2009, 06:10:51 PM »

Oh, is that my former project? Smiley

Btw, isn't Hamilton seat vacant since he left Atlasia?
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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2009, 06:43:07 PM »


Sorry but as you know I was not really around recently.

Who replaced Rocky and Hamilton?
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« Reply #71 on: December 31, 2009, 11:22:55 AM »

I suggest to strike word "class". There are no social classes recongized under Northeast nor Federal law. I suggest replace term with something like "social background".
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« Reply #72 on: December 31, 2009, 11:49:15 AM »

I suggest to strike word "class". There are no social classes recongized under Northeast nor Federal law. I suggest replace term with something like "social background".
Nope.

What formidable compromising skills...

I'm not compromising.

Personal feelings affecting political actions, how classy Roll Eyes
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« Reply #73 on: December 31, 2009, 12:02:11 PM »

Social background was a stupid term that could mean anything.

"Class" could mean anything as well.

I just suggest we should avoid such terms like "class" of whetever in oficial legislations.

There are no social classes under a law.
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« Reply #74 on: December 31, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

I modify my proposition to strike "class" work at all
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