Northeast Assembly Thread

[Alexander Hamilton]

I'd like to point out that the Kern High School District requires sexual education. The KHSD is run by theocrats-- literally, people who spend millions to put "In God We Trust" in every classroom and seeks to implement school prayer, and containing a board member who punched out a Prop 8 opponent (a homosexual 20 something).

[Alexander Hamilton]

I move to amend the bill as follows (even though it will be viewed as unfriendly and be put to a vote):

Freedom of Conscience Amendment

Section B(1) shall be amended as follows:
1.  Except as provided in subsection B(6), completion of at least one semester of sexual health is required for all high school students in order to graduate.

A new Section B(6) shall be added:
6.  Before the beginning of the relevant semester, every school shall send a permission slip to parents or guardians of children who would otherwise be enrolled in sexual health class.  A parent or guardian shall be entitled to remove their child from all or any portion of a sexual health class, specifically including any portion of that class teaching methods of contraception, masturbation or homosexuality.   No school shall take any action against a student whose parent opts out of enrolling their child in all or any portion of a sexual health class, nor shall that student's grade, grade-point average, or ability to graduate be affected.

I know that this amendment will not have enough support to pass but go ahead and vote.

Under the SOAP (which this bill may or may not be subject to), we vote on all unfriendly amendments at the end of the 72-hour debate period.

Am I correct that this and the homosexuality amendment are the two unfriendly ones and everything else proposed so far was accepted?

On the merits my amendment - I don't think the law is constitutional without it.  I believe it violates the Atlasian and Northeast Constitution's prohibitions on enacting laws prohibiting the free exercise of religion in its current form.

This bill doesn't have anything to do with religion.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I attended a KHSD school. The HIV/AIDS is a 3 day class. The sexual health class is a semester long, which most students take as a freshman or in summer school. I personally did not attend the HIV/AIDS seminar but HIV/AIDS is covered in the sexual health class.

There should be no religious objections to promoting safer sexual practices as an alternative to risky sexual practices. There should be no religious objections to presenting alternatives to abortion such as adoption. There should be no religious objections to teaching how to look for cancers such as breast cancer.

EDIT: I didn't even have my parents sign the form to opt out of the 3 day seminar, I just didn't do it. It isn't "required" or part of a grade or anything. Every single student was required to take the semester course to graduate though.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I move to amend the bill as follows (even though it will be viewed as unfriendly and be put to a vote):

Freedom of Conscience Amendment

Section B(1) shall be amended as follows:
1.  Except as provided in subsection B(6), completion of at least one semester of sexual health is required for all high school students in order to graduate.

A new Section B(6) shall be added:
6.  Before the beginning of the relevant semester, every school shall send a permission slip to parents or guardians of children who would otherwise be enrolled in sexual health class.  A parent or guardian shall be entitled to remove their child from all or any portion of a sexual health class, specifically including any portion of that class teaching methods of contraception, masturbation or homosexuality.   No school shall take any action against a student whose parent opts out of enrolling their child in all or any portion of a sexual health class, nor shall that student's grade, grade-point average, or ability to graduate be affected.

I know that this amendment will not have enough support to pass but go ahead and vote.

Such amendment would kill the entire idea of the bill

Yes. The whole point of the bill is that it includes provisions that can satisfy everybody in someway. The idea of religious exemption will ultimately kill the bill, as there will no longer be the support needed to pass this.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I attended a KHSD school. The HIV/AIDS is a 3 day class. The sexual health class is a semester long, which most students take as a freshman or in summer school. I personally did not attend the HIV/AIDS seminar but HIV/AIDS is covered in the sexual health class.

There should be no religious objections to promoting safer sexual practices as an alternative to risky sexual practices. There should be no religious objections to presenting alternatives to abortion such as adoption. There should be no religious objections to teaching how to look for cancers such as breast cancer.

EDIT: I didn't even have my parents sign the form to opt out of the 3 day seminar, I just didn't do it. It isn't "required" or part of a grade or anything. Every single student was required to take the semester course to graduate though.

Again, even in ultra-liberal California, the law gives parents the right to opt their children out of high school sexual health education classes:

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My amendment requests nothing less.

CA is not ultra-liberal. Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New York are "ultra-liberal".

That particular example, again, applies only to the specific 3-day or week-long seminars focusing mostly on HIV/AIDS. This bill is requiring this as a class to graduate from high school. CA kids still have to take the regular class.

This bill can be considered "public safety." Anything we can do to encourage frequent testing and safe sex practices, as well as anything that may lower the STD rate, protect not only individuals, but the community and region as a whole. Unless a couple is each others' only partner EVER, they are getting mixed in with everyone else's potential diseases. Obviously we can't legislate STDs and abortions and pregnancies and breast cancer out of existence, but we sure can try as hard as we can at the regional level to minimize their reach.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I move to amend the bill as follows (even though it will be viewed as unfriendly and be put to a vote):

Freedom of Conscience Amendment

Section B(1) shall be amended as follows:
1.  Except as provided in subsection B(6), completion of at least one semester of sexual health is required for all high school students in order to graduate.

A new Section B(6) shall be added:
6.  Before the beginning of the relevant semester, every school shall send a permission slip to parents or guardians of children who would otherwise be enrolled in sexual health class.  A parent or guardian shall be entitled to remove their child from all or any portion of a sexual health class, specifically including any portion of that class teaching methods of contraception, masturbation or homosexuality.   No school shall take any action against a student whose parent opts out of enrolling their child in all or any portion of a sexual health class, nor shall that student's grade, grade-point average, or ability to graduate be affected.

I know that this amendment will not have enough support to pass but go ahead and vote.

Such amendment would kill the entire idea of the bill

Precisely. I will never support this because it makes no sense.

We can give it a fair vote but I doubt it passes.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Can we end debate on this amendment?

Or better yet, can it get tabled?

[Alexander Hamilton]

I apologize, but I simply cannot be up at 2:49 AM to bring the Amendments to the Safe Sex Education Bill. I will do so now, and since it appears there is no further debate, I do not believe it would block any Representative from sharing their opinions of the Bill.

Also, since Representative Hamilton has not confirmed which Amendments are friendly, and which are not, they shall all be brought to a vote:

Freedom of Conscience Amendment

Section B(1) shall be amended as follows:
1.  Except as provided in subsection B(6), completion of at least one semester of sexual health is required for all high school students in order to graduate.

A new Section B(6) shall be added:
6.  Before the beginning of the relevant semester, every school shall send a permission slip to parents or guardians of children who would otherwise be enrolled in sexual health class.  A parent or guardian shall be entitled to remove their child from all or any portion of a sexual health class, specifically including any portion of that class teaching methods of contraception, masturbation or homosexuality.   No school shall take any action against a student whose parent opts out of enrolling their child in all or any portion of a sexual health class, nor shall that student's grade, grade-point average, or ability to graduate be affected.

Spon: Rep. cinyc              NAY
 
Motion to strike section A, subsection 2 in its entirity.

Spon: Rep. Mr. Moderate                 AYE

Motion to strike section A, subsection 3 in its entirity, and replace it with:
2. The requirements included in this act take effect with the school year starting September 2011.

Spon: Rep. Mr. Moderate             NAY

Motion to amend by insertion as Section B.6:
6. The course must address the issue of homosexuality and concerns specific to that portion of the student population, such as how same-sex partners can limit the risk of transmission of sexually transmitted disease, "coming out," and sexual discrimination.

Spon: Rep. Mr. Moderate                  NAY

Section B.5, motion to amend:
5.   The course must teach the common indicators of breast cancer, prostate cancer, and testicular cancer, as well as how to check the body for irregularities that are common indicators.

Spon: Rep. Mr. Moderate                   AYE
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Please vote Aye, nay, or Abstain. Voting last twenty-four hours.

[Alexander Hamilton]

AYE

[Alexander Hamilton]

AYE

[Alexander Hamilton]

Now hold on.  Before we can vote, the Lt. Governor needs to resolve our ties. 

There can't be ties with 5 votes.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Aye aye aye

[Alexander Hamilton]

Aye (on debating amendments to the SOAP).

[Alexander Hamilton]

Since we are amending SOAP, here is something to make us go faster. Debates have beeen really too long and we still have many things to debate...


Amendment to the SOAP

Section 3, subsection a) is amended as follows :

Except as otherwise provided in subsection (h), all proposed legislation other than veto override votes shall be open for debate for no less than until fourty-eight (48) hours after the Lt. Governor places it on the Northeast Assembly floor.

Aye on this

[Alexander Hamilton]

Bump

We need to revive this, or this Assembly will be remembered as an epic fail.

I'm about to go rogue and just start posting my legislation here and forcing debate.

[Alexander Hamilton]

I suggest opening an override vote ASAP so we can move on, we have a lot on the table.

[Alexander Hamilton]

aye

[Alexander Hamilton]

aye

You can't vote wtf

[Alexander Hamilton]

aye

You can't vote wtf

I forgot I am not in the freedom loving pacific anymore.

Pacific legislature doesn't do anything.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Aye

Nay.

I thought you supported this.

He probably doesn't support overriding what the Governor thinks is best. BUT I DO!

[Alexander Hamilton]

Ok, now it's clear. Kal and Mod please hurry up.

Barnes is gonna have to break our tie.

[Alexander Hamilton]

Pretty self-explanatory. The bill is a fair compromise and I see no reason to go higher or lower.

[Alexander Hamilton]

This is terrible. At 16 kids are still in high school. Do they go home from school and then do porn at night?

Kids ? Am I a kid ?!?

Yes a 16 year old is a kid.

You must be a virgin. Come on, if this weren't Atlas I'd be able to say we all had sex by then, but most people here aren't into girls for some reason. Either way, this is a great change.

[Alexander Hamilton]

This is terrible. At 16 kids are still in high school. Do they go home from school and then do porn at night?

Kids ? Am I a kid ?!?

Yes a 16 year old is a kid.

You must be a virgin. Come on, if this weren't Atlas I'd be able to say we all had sex by then, but most people here aren't into girls for some reason. Either way, this is a great change.

Yeah! Great change! Why stop at 16 though! Let's make it 8 years old!

Because there is a big difference between 16 and 8, I doubt you even know the current legal standing anyways so you might as well be quiet. I could've made it 14. I was comfortable at that age and so are many others. Be happy with what you get.

[Alexander Hamilton]

This is terrible. At 16 kids are still in high school. Do they go home from school and then do porn at night?

Kids ? Am I a kid ?!?

Yes a 16 year old is a kid.

You must be a virgin. Come on, if this weren't Atlas I'd be able to say we all had sex by then, but most people here aren't into girls for some reason. Either way, this is a great change.

Yeah! Great change! Why stop at 16 though! Let's make it 8 years old!

Because there is a big difference between 16 and 8, I doubt you even know the current legal standing anyways so you might as well be quiet. I could've made it 14. I was comfortable at that age and so are many others. Be happy with what you get.

It's pretty sickening that you are "comfortable" with child porn.

This has nothing to do with porn you idiot. This is age of consent. What are you smoking?