Northeast Assembly Thread

[Antonio the Sixth]

I don't need to have sympathy for overeaters, let alone have the government not work with those who don't hire a huge person. Next we know the government is going to have to super size everything.

This is not about sympathy, but about justice.

Size and smell are both choices.

Lose weight and take a shower.

Obesity is an illness.

An illness one brings upon oneself by making poor personal choices. There are consequences to be faced. A company shouldn't be forced to bear the burden because a potential employee can't fit through their front door.

In the case you didn't knew that, overeating isn't always the cause of obesity.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

No, you are trying to make a "poor me, I'm fat" and I findit absolutely sickening. If youthink discrimination against fat people is a problem, write a bill to combat the problem of obesity. We shouldn't accept unsightliness and unhealthiness as "okay" when it is a serious problem. It's not "okay" to be obese. Not only that, but size, again, can mean anything and I already explained why that is a problem.

How can you have a -7 social score and pretend to tell everybody what is "okay" and what is not ?

Because they are trying to intentionally burden our society?

Many times, it's not intentional. 90% of the times, it's not entirely intentional. Plus, if the society didn't set excessively restricting and unrealistic beauty canons, 10% of "obeses" wouldn't be considered so.

So you are obese?

Why do you say that ?

Why are you making up 1001 lame excuses for those who make poor personal choices that burden all of society?

Because I have got a brain and therefore I'm able to go beyond stupid commonplaces in the style of "fats are ugly so I don't like them".

[Antonio the Sixth]

Tabled.

Pathetic.

[Antonio the Sixth]

While 14 years should be a reasonable limit for pornography, it's definitely too young for sexual activities.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I hereby propose this Amendment :

Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2010

An act to liberalise laws restricting sexual activity and to amend the Pornography and Age of Consent Act of 2005

1.   In accordance with the federal Bow Chicka Bow Wow Act of 2009, All individuals 14 years of age or older shall have the right to buy, possess, and view pornography depicting only persons of 18 years of age or older.

2.   All those persons of 16 years of age or older not incarcerated for crimes shall have the right to give consent to engage in sexual acts with other persons who are less than 5 years older.

3.   Any person of 21 years of age or older who engages in a sexual act with a person of 16 years of age or younger is guilty of statutory rape.


I expressed the reason of the first modification. The second is due to a logical concern : why a 20 years-old girl with a 22-years-old boyfriend ?
However, since it's clear that Hamilton hates debate, this Amendment will probably have the same effect that for the last bill...

[Antonio the Sixth]

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I don't think 20-year-olds who have sex with 22-year-olds are caught up by the amended law - nor are 16-year-olds who have sex with 22-year-olds.

As it is written, such situation is forbidden.

[Antonio the Sixth]

<wondering why someone doesn't reintroduce the same bill with amendments passed as their own to avoid it being retabled?>

Somebody already has - but under our rules, it has to wait in the queue behind other legislation.

We will not get to it this session and next session the composition will be more favorable to us.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  You're probably forgetting the rule in the SOAP that gives priority to other members' bills after another representative has had 2 pieces of legislation placed on the floor. 

Even so, I will just have it repealed.

Power is starting to make you mad. I foresee you will end up like DWTL.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This is the forum community. A main board for pointless spamming and a child board for popularity contests

This shows how much respect you have for Atlasian institutions. Now, provided that you despise Atlasia so much, why do you involve in it ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

We will trurly miss you as much as we will wait for your return

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, 15 is a good compromise. If I get the other part of my Amendment passed, it's fine with me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, what are we doing with future Hamilton votes ? Can we count his votes while they have to be deleted ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

My apologies for the delay in casting a deciding ballot.

As I read the Bill, the Age of Consent will be adjusted to 16, so long as the other consenting person is younger than the age of 21.

I cast a ballot in favour of this Bill.

You mean in favor of the Amendment I made on this bill ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'm not happy with the age of consent remaining ridicolous 16, but I'm not going to sink the entire bill.

Aye.

We're not yet voting on the bill.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

I would like to know why does Rep. Hamilton wish to extend the debate period. Anyways, since it's an important bill that neeeds discussions about precise issues. So I vote Aye.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I would like to know why does Rep. Hamilton wish to extend the debate period. Anyways, since it's an important bill that neeeds discussions about precise issues. So I vote Aye.

This bill is is a big task that we need to get perfect.

I tend to agree with that, so it's fine.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Fellow Representatives,

Time is up to put an end to the economic crisis. More than one year ago, the collapse of our financial system brutally showed us how much our ideological dogma was out of touch with the real world. While many Atlasian politician were self-assured that State wasn't the solution, but the problem, they are now able to see what "autoregulation of the market" leads to : behaviours hurting common sense, rising inequalities, and finally the economic krach. Only the strong action of the Atlasian State, which a massive and rapid action in favor of failing businesses, prevented the catastophe. So, it's finally time to renounce to the ideological dogma of neoliberalism, and adopt a pragmatic attitude on the reality of our economic situation.

We saved our economy from collapse : now it's time to engage structural reforms of our economy, in order to favor a rapid return to a strong and fairly shared economic growth. That's the purpose of this bill.

This bill pursues four main goals, detailed in each section.
First of all, a continuous help to businesses facing economic difficulties, thanks to thr Regional Fund for Economic recovery. Saving failing businesses is absolutely necessary to avoid a new recession. Plus, thanks to the Fair Distribution of Public Money Act, it will also contribute to save jobs.
Secondly, the second section aims to favor economic sectors favoring the development of ecologic methods of production, turning our economic growth more and more toward activities respecting the environment.
Also, we should not forget that an economy doesn't work without its lower classes. The loss of buying power these persons are suffering from strongly penalizes our economy. So, a priority of our region should be to help them from being reduced to poverty, and supply them the resources necessary to consume. To reach this goal, two means will be employed : firstly, the Economic Recovery Allocation, guaranteed to any low-income household, will give them a help to improve their economic situation. Then, the subvention to businesses employing long-time unemployed persons will generate a massive increase in these people's income, as well as favoring the creation of wealth.
As the Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act advices us, a priority will be given to budget severity : that's why half of the money we received from the federal Government will be spared, allowing our region to keep a balanced budget and avoid indebtedness.

Fellow Representatives, this is not an ideological bill. It's, to the contrary, an equilibrated and pragmatic bill that aims to help our region to get out of depression and to build a stronger regional economy, based on budget balance, strong businesses, buying power, and green activities. That's why I encourage all of you to propose Amendments to improve this bill. That's also why the failure of this bill will be a catastrophe for our region. We received $100 bilions from the federal Government since several month. Now we need a bill defining how we will use them, for the good of the Northeast and its economy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems that representatives care absolutely nothing of an essential bill that will decide the future of our economy. It's really comfroting.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems that representatives care absolutely nothing of an essential bill that will decide the future of our economy. It's really comfroting.

Your adress leave me with nothing to add.

I just hope that those who don't even bother to express concerns won't vote nay on the final vote...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Sorry for the mistake. I hereby amend the bill as follows :


Northeast Economic Recovery Stimulus Act

The 7 billion dollars received by the Northeast Region from the Federal Government of Atlasia in accordance to Section 4 a) of the 2009 Atlasian Relief and Recovery Act, and the Regional and Local Fiscal Relief Act shall be employed as follows.

Section 1 : Regional Fund for Economic Recovery

1. The Regional Fund for Economic Recovery (RFER) is hereby established.
2. The RFER shall receive $1.5 billion dollars for its functioning.
3. The RFER shall have the authority to provide loans to any business expressly asking for which is in a situation close to bankruptcy. Said loans shall be considered as a monetary help coming from the Northeast Region.
4. The RFER shall be free to negotiate interest rates with businesses.
5. The RFER shall be effective at January 1st, 2010, and shall be dismissed at December 31st, 2014, unless the Northeast Legislative Assembly provides otherwise by a majority vote.

Section 2 : Help to green jobs

1. The Northeast Region shall invest $500 millions in renewable energy.
2. Businesses in the economic sector of renewable energy shall receive a monetary help from the Northeast Region, whose total amount shall be $500 millions. The amount of money received shall be proportional to the number of employees of each business.

Section 3 : Help to the lower classes

1. $1 billion shall serve to establish the Economic Recovery Allocation (ERA). The ERA shall be granted to any household of the first and second tax brackets, as defined by the Fiscal Responsibility Act. Its amount shall be the same for any household.
2. $500 millions shall be dealt at December 31, 2010, between every business having employed at least 10 individuals who had been unemployed for more than one year after January 1, 2010.

Section 4 : Budget severity

The remaining $3 billions shall be integrated to the budget of the Northeast Region and used for normal functioning expenses.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Section 4 : Budget severity

The Any remaining $3 billions amount shall be integrated to the budget of the Northeast Region and used for normal functioning expenses.

Friendly, no problem with that.


BTW, you said that we should focus on budget severity : it's indeed what we do. As you see, almost half of the money will go there.

The economic recovery tax act was a good thing, but can"t be enough. We can't base a stimulus bill only on tax credits. My 3 goals (help to businesses, green activities and lower classes) are necessary for an equilibrated economy.