Northeast Assembly Thread

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I support this.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nay. Wind power is ineffective and not cost-worthy.

Yeah, why speding money to avoid the destruction of the planet we are living in ? Who the hell cares ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nay. Wind power is ineffective and not cost-worthy.

Yeah, why speding money to avoid the destruction of the planet we are living in ? Who the hell cares ?

No, don't put words in my mouth. I support solar, hydro-electric and nuclear power.

It won't be enough. Wind power can have many difficulties, but it's still better than nothing.
Obviously we should do the same for solar and hydro-electric.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Nay. Wind power is ineffective and not cost-worthy.

Yeah, why speding money to avoid the destruction of the planet we are living in ? Who the hell cares ?

No, don't put words in my mouth. I support solar, hydro-electric and nuclear power.

It won't be enough. Wind power can have many difficulties, but it's still better than nothing.
Obviously we should do the same for solar and hydro-electric.

They're unsightly and inefficient. You would need a huge number of them just to power a single town, and it doesn't seem worth it, to be frank.

The same applies to solar power, for the moment. But in some years we'll find ways to make them more efficient.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

Fully suport this excellent initiative.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye.

We're not yet voting.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

This Amendment had to be reintroduced, and I thank cynic to having done so. However, this bill solves only one of the two essential problems in the current system. Accelerating the Amendment vote is certainly important, but my biggest concern was to remove the participation clause, which is undemocratic and excessively favors the status quo.
That's why I'd like to propose a friendly Amendment :


Amending Procedure Amendment

1. Article VII of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby repealed. Its content shall be replaced by the following:
2. i) Amendments to this constitution shall be proposed by the Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region.  A proposed Amendment shall be forwarded to be voted upon by the citizens of the Northeast upon:

a) A successful vote of two-thirds of voting members Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region;

b) A successful vote of majority of all members of the Legislative Assembly; and

c) Approval of the Governor in the form of his consent.

ii) The Chief Judicial Officer shall open the polling booth for all proposed Amendments approved by the Governor before 12:00:00am EST of the second Friday of a month at 12:00:00am EST on the third Friday of the same month.  The Chief Judicial Officer shall open the polling booth for all proposed Amendments approved by the Governor after 12:00:00am EST of the second Friday of a month at 12:00:00am EST on the third Friday of the following month.  The Chief Judicial Officer shall close the polling booth at 11:59:59pm EST on the following Sunday.  If the date for opening the polling booth coincides with another Northeast election, the Chief Judicial Officer shall include the vote on any proposed Amendments in the polling booth for that election.

iii) Any Amendment proposed by the Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region shall only become effective upon:a) a successful vote of two-thirds of those citizens of the Northeast Region who vote for or against the proposed Amendment; and

b) A successful vote of majority of all citizens of the Northeast Region who are eligible to vote in such election.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I persist to consider this system as undemocratic, since the partisans of status quo are helpe by people who don't care. The opinion of people who don't care shouldn't be considered.
Anyways, I accept to propose this one as a compromise, making the treshold more realizable. I'd like you to accept this as friendly.


Amending Procedure Amendment

1. Article VII of the New Northeast Constitution is hereby repealed. Its content shall be replaced by the following:
2. i) Amendments to this constitution shall be proposed by the Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region.  A proposed Amendment shall be forwarded to be voted upon by the citizens of the Northeast upon:

a) An affirmative vote of two-thirds of voting members Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region;

b) An affirmative vote of majority of all members of the Legislative Assembly; and

c) Approval of the Governor in the form of his consent.

ii) The Chief Judicial Officer shall open the polling booth for all proposed Amendments approved by the Governor before 12:00:00am EST of the second Friday of a month at 12:00:00am EST on the third Friday of the same month.  The Chief Judicial Officer shall open the polling booth for all proposed Amendments approved by the Governor after 12:00:00am EST of the second Friday of a month at 12:00:00am EST on the third Friday of the following month.  The Chief Judicial Officer shall close the polling booth at 11:59:59pm EST on the following Sunday.  If the date for opening the polling booth coincides with another Northeast election, the Chief Judicial Officer shall include the vote on any proposed Amendments in the polling booth for that election.

iii) Any Amendment proposed by the Legislative Assembly of the Northeast Region shall only become effective upon:

a) An affirmative vote of two-thirds of those citizens of the Northeast Region who vote for or against the proposed Amendment; and

b) An affirmative vote of one third of all citizens of the Northeast Region who are eligible to vote in such election.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Do you mind if I amend 2c) to say "Approval of the Governor in the form of his signature" - to make it clear that he must affirmatively sign any proposed amendment?  There appears to be some sort of issue about that on the Governor's office thread.

Personally, I think that's a good idea.

Seconded.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Constitutional amendments should be voted on by the full citizenry of the Northeast before they go into effect.  I'm fine with removing the requirement that says that x% of all registered citizens must vote on an amendment before it can be passed (if that is, in fact, still a requirement), but I do want to see the public involved in this procedure.

So the current draft should perfectly suit you.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Constitutional amendments should be voted on by the full citizenry of the Northeast before they go into effect.  I'm fine with removing the requirement that says that x% of all registered citizens must vote on an amendment before it can be passed (if that is, in fact, still a requirement), but I do want to see the public involved in this procedure.

So the current draft should perfectly suit you.

That's weird, did the bill change again?

Just read the latest post in which you see a bill, and some red characters.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It initially made it seem like citizens were only involved in a Maine-like people's veto of an amendment once it had already been pushed into law.

This was an anterior Amendment which has already been put on vote and failed. The new one has been written by cynic and originally didn't changed the "turnout requirement". The new one sets it as 33% instead of 50% of reg. voters.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump, I guess everyone agrees now.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

Another bill on Governor's desk...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Next bill to consider :

The New Northeast Minimum Wage Act

1. The Northeast Minimum Wage Act is hereby repealed.
2. The Northeast minimum wage shall be equivalent to the current Federal minimum wage.
3. The Northeast minimum wage shall increase and decrease concurrent to the Federal minimum wage.

Initially introduced by Rep. Hamilton and reintroduced by me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I would back this bill.

Quite surprising, even if apreciated. Could I ask you why ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

LOL Nobody minds you, guy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems like a good thing.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Bump.

Now we can vote on this.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye