Alternate US States

[Mr. Smith]

Firstly, I haven't seen any of the California's here, what would the graphs look like?

And secondly what would all these divided/integrated states look like in 1988?

I imagine West Coast would go to Dukakis, but the other two would go to Bush.

[Mr. Smith]

@Robb: Ah but you could still get the entire 1988 map up, the big maps were going strong from 1960 and then just cut off at 1984 inexplicably.

But in that case with the other part,looking forward to it.

[Mr. Smith]

Now for Wisconsin right?

[Mr. Smith]

See this is why Pacific is the best state in this nation, barely gave the So Cal embarrassments a chance, and had this state it's way instead of Del Sur stupidity, Kennedy would have remained the victor...Humphrey may have won the presidency, and Ford wouldn't have won all the Left Coast!

BEST DAMN STATE EVER! NO REGRESSIVE OBSTURCTIONISM!


...~sighs~ This means the greatest embarrassment is the last, the state that robbed the actual California of being a Kennedy-Humphrey-Carter-Dukakis state all of whom lost by absurdly narrow margins which California (okay okay California drank the HW juice as well) and Pacifica would've have given

The state that fostered Nixon, the state with the worst weather and tackiest cities.

[Mr. Smith]

Biley fascinated.

[Mr. Smith]

See this is why Pacific is the best state in this nation, barely gave the So Cal embarrassments a chance, and had this state it's way instead of Del Sur stupidity, Kennedy would have remained the victor...Humphrey may have won the presidency, and Ford wouldn't have won all the Left Coast!

BEST DAMN STATE EVER! NO REGRESSIVE OBSTURCTIONISM!


...~sighs~ This means the greatest embarrassment is the last, the state that robbed the actual California of being a Kennedy-Humphrey-Carter-Dukakis state all of whom lost by absurdly narrow margins which California (okay okay California drank the HW juice as well) and Pacifica would've have given

The state that fostered Nixon, the state with the worst weather and tackiest cities.

Yours is a post the best describes progressives: Utopia can be achieved if only all opposition is removed. This is the heart of leftism, progessivism etc. "The prefection of man is possible with the right people in control" A well educated, well cultured bureaucracy to plan the lives of the serfs to achieve the "prefect society" Nudge is a word used by the likes of Cass Sunstein.

It's a thread about splitting up States, could you keep your deranged political nonsense out of it? Thanks.

I s'pose this goes for me as well and that's fair enough, got a bit carried away on that part.

I'm not recanting where weather's concerned, SF Summers are by far the best Summers.

[Mr. Smith]

I s'pose this goes for me as well and that's fair enough, got a bit carried away on that part.

I'm not recanting where weather's concerned, SF Summers are by far the best Summers.

I certainly wouldn't call your post "deranged nonsense", but yeah, I guess that this little exchange teaches us that it's best to tone down excessively partisan comments (though I absolutely agree with your feeling).

And summer is, comparatively speaking, the worst season in San Francisco. San Francisco falls are the best.

Given I just lived through that, I'm going to have to say:...What's the difference  XD?

[Mr. Smith]

To all who speculate California going Atlas Red, while such is possible, it could be a while given that this state clearly is a misplaced Southern State. Depending on how far Fresno and Sacramento grow rather than rural areas or pseudo cities like Downeyville the state could be like North Carolina, or like Alabama.

Plumas County may as well be a stand in for Georgia given its straight Democrat record from 1928-1976 and one final Clinton nod in 1992.

And the state probably voted for Stevenson in 1956, or at least gave Eisenhower a plurality victory and was one the closest in 1952 for Ike too.

[Mr. Smith]

Los Angeles, Ventura, San Diego, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, and Imperial if I'm not mistaken.


More importantly though, what's the graph of the three and the real California look like?

[Mr. Smith]

I actually have results for the strongest and closest of the Alternates.

[Mr. Smith]

How would Hawaii vote for Nixon here (great map btw)? It was a razor thin margin for Kennedy IRL, and it hasn't been altered far as I can tell.

Anyway of the Alternates:

Massachusetts is the tops for Kennedy (60.7%) (though clearly behind the unaltered Georgia), Nevada is the closest (50.6%) (clearly a greater divide than Hawaii IRL and should be on this)

Ohio is the best for Nixon (58.9%) [once again the unaltered Nebraska is the ultimate Anti-Kennedy here, just as IRL], and North Florida is the closest (50.1%) [or should be, not Hawaii, anyway it's the same as IRL California]

[Mr. Smith]

For 1964


Strongest Johnson: Massachusetts (76.9%) [not as strong as Rhode Island IRL, but slightly ahead of  he actual Massachusetts]
Closest Johnson: Oregon (54.9%) [Idaho IRL, but since Idaho was absorbed...it still shows]

Strongest Goldwater: Mississippi (87.9%) still, North Florida (53.3%) of the alternates
Closest Goldwater: Arizona (50.45%) still,  and still North Florida (53.3%) of the alternates by virtue of being the only one to turn to Goldwater

[Mr. Smith]

Are you going to spoil all my election summaries?

Alright, alright I'll cut it out , not like he map is here yet.

[Mr. Smith]

I definitely approve of the format, and am looking forward to the next elections! No rush Antonio, you've done a great job on this series!

[Mr. Smith]

I can't wait to see a Democratic win again

Seriously though, this is some amazing stuff you're doing here! Bravo!

[Mr. Smith]

This doesn't bode well for Kerry, who will lose NM, Iowa, and probably South Florida too...and just for Wisconsin.

[Mr. Smith]

You were wrong about Feingold.

But seriously, what do 2016 Senate and Gubernatorial look like?

[Mr. Smith]

Will Ohio [or is that called Erie in this map] still be Biden, now that is a good question.