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Question: Opinion of Edward Kennedy (D-MA), the longtime senator who just died?
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« on: August 26, 2009, 01:21:26 PM »
« edited: August 26, 2009, 01:41:01 PM by True Conservative »

And why?
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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 01:23:31 PM »

The most intelligent of the Kennedy brothers.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 01:33:23 PM »

FF. Should have been President in the 80s.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 01:37:58 PM »

What FFs are made of.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 02:06:26 PM »

He gutted the SAFEGUARD missile defense system, the single biggest contributor to military bloat and pie-in-the-sky spending in the 1970s. For that he ought to be commended by anyone opposed to government spending.

Ought to be, but won't be.
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 02:27:08 PM »

He gutted the SAFEGUARD missile defense system, the single biggest contributor to military bloat and pie-in-the-sky spending in the 1970s. For that he ought to be commended by anyone opposed to government spending.

Ought to be, but won't be.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 02:41:06 PM »

FF. One of America's finest public officials.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 02:42:46 PM »

Concerning the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965:

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Kennedy was instrumental in the deception. As time went on it became obvious that immigration was not only changing the ethnic makeup of the US, radically, it was also causing the bulk of US population growth. Ted, if he himself had been deceived in 1965, showed no outward sign of resenting it. Instead he became a champion for the government policies that by the late 1970s were permitting more than a million immigrants to enter the US annually, a large fraction of them illegally. The lawlessness since 1965 is unprecedented in US immigration history and is justifiably described as an invasion.

By 1986 this lawlessness was widely recognized. Our government, unwisely, settled on amnesty as a solution. Once again Kennedy's special talents were on display:

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Two decades after his first promises on immigration were revealed as lies Kennedy, miraculously, was still in power. By this time he was openly advocating the interests of aliens over those of citizens. The wealth, power, and prestige of existing citizens were diminished by this amnesty, and in granting the priviledges of citizenship to invaders respect for both citizenship and the law was greatly undermined.

Once again Kennedy downplayed the impact of the legislation. Once again the promises that legitimizing illegitimacy would make it disappear were revealed as folly if not downright dishonesty. After 1986 little effort was dedicated to enforcement of immigration laws and the invasion went on unabated.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice...WTF?!?

Four years later The Immigration Act of 1990 was - surprise, surprise - sponsored by Ted Kennedy.

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So after saying in 1965 that there wouldn't be an invasion, and then in 1986 saying that "just this once" we should forgive the invaders, Kennedy came back yet again, and this third time he said we must invite the invader's relatives before they too invade.

Throughout the 1990s and into the 2000s the US government continued to expand legal immigration and legitimize illegal invasion in smaller, lower profile acts. The business of legitimizing the invasion went into hyperdrive, and was deliberately flying under the radar. Kennedy sponsored or supported dozens of acts favoring aliens. Most of us never heard about them.

Despite the stealthy attempts to vent and cover up by 2007 the scale and effects of the invasion could no longer be disguised. Examining SchoolDigger data anyone can see that toward the end of the 1990s latino and to a lesser extent asian numbers began to increase dramatically, and that these aliens were appearing in parts of the US they had no previous history of living. It is also clear from school data that White and to a lesser extent black numbers generally decrease wherever the alien numbers increase. Whether or not this reaction or noticing this reaction is called racist it is so widespread that it must by definition be considered normal.

To address the growing problems Kennedy, along with Senator and Republican nominee for president Juan McCain, sponsored the mother of all immigration bills, the so-called CIR, or Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. It was so sneakily crafted, so falsely advertised, so beneficial for aliens and awful for citizens that across the country voices rose in disbelief and outrage.

Major pundits and media outlets did their best not to hear. They avoided reporting on the bill debate, continued presenting aliens in the most favorable light possible, and disingenuously called for public debate while they worked hard to smother it. They smeared anyone who opposed immigration as nativists, xenophobes, and racists. They directed hate toward those they could only accuse and only imagine being motivated by hate.

To say that the media is biased on immigration is true, but not the whole truth. The real issue that they never report is the tremendous gap between what the country's citizens and its leadership want. The media and politicians are in complete agreement. They favor the invasion. They are also well aware that the citizens do not. Thus they resort to lies.

After the CIR was defeated Kennedy was incensed. When he said the following he was shouting these lies:

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In 1986 even Kennedy called the invaders illegal immigrants. Today he favors the euphemism "undocumented". It reflects his view that everyone in the world is an American that just may not have their papers yet.

Kennedy, the media, and the alien, alien-loving leadership of this country know what their opposition wants. We want what is normal and just. It is in the Constitution they swear an oath to uphold. What any citizen anywhere wants is for his government, even if it fails in everything else, to perform its single most basic function: to protect its territory and its citizens. When our representatives openly abrogate that responsibility and instead act to serve the interests of alien invaders rather than the citizens, then they have demonstrated their illegitimacy. The citizenry has every right to dissolve that illegitimate government and form another.

http://age-of-treason.blogspot.com/2008/05/ted-kennedys-legacy.html

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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 02:50:56 PM »

The greatest Senator in American history.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 03:09:22 PM »

Horrible Person, mainly for his views.

But I will not attack him at this time. RIP Senator.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 03:23:02 PM »

The greatest Senator in American history.

FF. Should have been President in the 80s.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 03:29:02 PM »

One of the greatest Americans to ever live.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2009, 04:01:47 PM »

FF
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2009, 04:13:19 PM »

This poll is inappropriate at this moment

FF, for his devition to his ideas, hard working, accomplishment and proving, that you can be faithful to you convictions and can work effectively with a people with diffrent positions 
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2009, 04:24:24 PM »

He and John Anderson, developed an alternative agenda to the Carter administration which made Ted Kennedy more of and icon. Less reliance on foreign oil, alternative fuel resources, and that is what I will definately remember him for.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2009, 08:06:36 AM »

The most intelligent of the Kennedy brothers.
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2009, 09:21:35 AM »

Ted's image is exactly what comes to mind when I think of "Horrible Person."
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2009, 09:34:55 AM »

Will always be in the shadow of the more competent Robert, who will always be in the shadow of the much more competent John F.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2009, 01:02:38 PM »

Will always be in the shadow of the more competent Robert, who will always be in the shadow of the much more competent John F.

Please, spare me the Camelot worship.  The most Presidential thing JFK ever did was get shot.  Had it not been for Oswald, he'd have gone down in history as a medium-weight two-term president.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2009, 01:08:42 PM »

Will always be in the shadow of the more competent Robert, who will always be in the shadow of the much more competent John F.

Please, spare me the Camelot worship.  The most Presidential thing JFK ever did was get shot.  Had it not been for Oswald, he'd have gone down in history as a medium-weight two-term president.


That's what I call a Presidential Shot!
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2009, 01:21:24 PM »

Ted's image is exactly what comes to mind when I think of "Horrible Person."
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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2009, 02:46:43 PM »

Will always be in the shadow of the more competent Robert, who will always be in the shadow of the much more competent John F.

Please, spare me the Camelot worship.  The most Presidential thing JFK ever did was get shot.  Had it not been for Oswald, he'd have gone down in history as a medium-weight two-term president.


Far from worship, although JFK wasn't horrible.
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2009, 02:55:12 PM »

Politically, he was mostly great. As a person, well...
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2009, 06:03:56 PM »

Will always be in the shadow of the more competent Robert, who will always be in the shadow of the much more competent John F.

Please, spare me the Camelot worship.  The most Presidential thing JFK ever did was get shot.  Had it not been for Oswald, he'd have gone down in history as a medium-weight two-term president.


Wow, it's like with Mary, Queen of Scots. Who'd remember her if she was not first reigning monarch executed? Wink
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2009, 06:59:34 PM »

Not my favorite of the Kennedy brothers, but he's still a FF for his work fighting for equal rights and universal healthcare.

It's a shame he won't pass Thurmond for longest serving senator, as he did much more good for this country than ol' Strom ever did.  Not saying legislative accomplishments = time in legislature, but you know what I mean.
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