Should the Canadian federal government force Quebec to repeal its language laws?

[Хahar 🤔]

My favorite example is that in France, stop signs can say STOP, but in Quebec they say ARRÊT.

They should say ARRÊT in France, too.

EU uniformity.

Seriously? I don't know why we have "stop" here, it seems to me to have become rather international. Though "STOP" is fine, it's brief, easily comes, it works good for what it is purposed, "ARRET" would be too long to say A-RRET, no, "STOP" is better. Plus "stop" became hugely common in France, surely one of the most used words, we use to pronounce it like " 'top ".

But it's not French.

We don't have ARRÊT on our signs.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

My favorite example is that in France, stop signs can say STOP, but in Quebec they say ARRÊT.

They should say ARRÊT in France, too.

EU uniformity.

Seriously? I don't know why we have "stop" here, it seems to me to have become rather international. Though "STOP" is fine, it's brief, easily comes, it works good for what it is purposed, "ARRET" would be too long to say A-RRET, no, "STOP" is better. Plus "stop" became hugely common in France, surely one of the most used words, we use to pronounce it like " 'top ".

But it's not French.

We don't have ARRÊT on our signs.

Oh, pardon to have stolen the word. Or, pardon to spread English or pardon for whatever I should apologize for, if ever I have too. Then, well, if you seriously think like that, you would certainly enjoy Québec.

[Hash]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

[Hash]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

English Quebecois are not and have never been persecuted like linguistic minorities are or were in some countries. People can get that retarded inanity out of their brains now, mar plij.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

My favorite example is that in France, stop signs can say STOP, but in Quebec they say ARRÊT.

They should say ARRÊT in France, too.

EU uniformity.

Seriously? I don't know why we have "stop" here, it seems to me to have become rather international. Though "STOP" is fine, it's brief, easily comes, it works good for what it is purposed, "ARRET" would be too long to say A-RRET, no, "STOP" is better. Plus "stop" became hugely common in France, surely one of the most used words, we use to pronounce it like " 'top ".

But it's not French.

We don't have ARRÊT on our signs.

Oh, and, a convention of the French language established that we ban the French accent so said "accent circonflexe" " ^" from the caps, maybe it didn't come until Québec.

[MaxQue]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

My favorite example is that in France, stop signs can say STOP, but in Quebec they say ARRÊT.

They should say ARRÊT in France, too.

EU uniformity.

Seriously? I don't know why we have "stop" here, it seems to me to have become rather international. Though "STOP" is fine, it's brief, easily comes, it works good for what it is purposed, "ARRET" would be too long to say A-RRET, no, "STOP" is better. Plus "stop" became hugely common in France, surely one of the most used words, we use to pronounce it like " 'top ".

But it's not French.

We don't have ARRÊT on our signs.

Oh, and, a convention of the French language established that we ban the French accent so said "accent circonflexe" " ^" from the caps, maybe it didn't come until Québec.

That convention was invented because France was too weak to impose keyboards where we are able to put accents on caps. Sorry.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

[MaxQue]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

Convention in France. Don't act like the Académie Française and act like your decisions have an effect out of France.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

Convention in France. Don't act like the Académie Française and act like your decisions have an effect out of France.

Yes, ok, well, so Québequois don't apply this one? I don't mind whether they do or not, but they, one more time mainly the people on the public scene, use to be harsh with us because we don't follow their knee jerk reactions, so...

[Hash]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

You'll be hard pressed to find Québecois who use such atrocities like "le week-end", "le shopping", "le roller" or "c'est cool".

Please stop thinking that everybody speaks or should speak your 'pure' version of French.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I see that no one's interested in the pseudo-marxist-whatever look at the situation

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

You'll be hard pressed to find Québecois who use such atrocities like "le week-end", "le shopping", "le roller" or "c'est cool".

Please stop thinking that everybody speaks or should speak your 'pure' version of French.

Well, I don't know, your experience of Québec is certainly more dense than mine, though, I practiced them a lot by chats a long time ago, and actually they used almost more English than we can do here, I speak about youngs, people of my age, some Québequois I heard were also saying that US was close there, that's why they used enough English words. Here's on what I based myself.

As I said from the beginning, they speak whatever they want, I was just saying what I thought of what I observed.

[Hash]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

You'll be hard pressed to find Québecois who use such atrocities like "le week-end", "le shopping", "le roller" or "c'est cool".

Please stop thinking that everybody speaks or should speak your 'pure' version of French.

Well, I don't know, your experience of Québec is certainly more dense than mine, though, I practiced them a lot by chats a long time ago, and actually they used almost more English than we can do here, I speak about youngs, people of my age, some Québequois I heard were also saying that US was close there, that's why they used enough English words. Here's on what I based myself.

As I said from the beginning, they speak whatever they want, I was just saying what I thought of what I observed.

Let's stop using anecdotal evidence, please.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Can people also stop thinking Québec is some sort of ultra-conservative ethnonationalistic/linguonationalistic hellhole, please? We don't chain up the evil English and put them in cages and whip them every night.

Please.

Sometimes it turns to a knee jerk caricature against English words, actually, but well, ok...

It's only the protection of a language, whether or not you agree with that.

Yes, yes, and I still think that's too much of some knee jerk things, they impose themselves to translate almost everything, at least on the public scene, seems the people in their daily language are more open-minded there...

You'll be hard pressed to find Québecois who use such atrocities like "le week-end", "le shopping", "le roller" or "c'est cool".

Please stop thinking that everybody speaks or should speak your 'pure' version of French.

Well, I don't know, your experience of Québec is certainly more dense than mine, though, I practiced them a lot by chats a long time ago, and actually they used almost more English than we can do here, I speak about youngs, people of my age, some Québequois I heard were also saying that US was close there, that's why they used enough English words. Here's on what I based myself.

As I said from the beginning, they speak whatever they want, I was just saying what I thought of what I observed.

Let's stop using anecdotal evidence, please.

Héhé, yep, the dozens I've met might have all been exceptions... ...

[Хahar 🤔]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

It's like that in many languages, actually.

[Hatman 🍁]

Quebeckers definitely use a lot of English words, but have gone down a different route than the French in this regard.

[PGSable]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

Convention in France. Don't act like the Académie Française and act like your decisions have an effect out of France.

Actually, the convention is subject to debate even in France. The Académie Française doesn't follow it (and, from experience, neither do the publishing companies).

[Psychic Octopus]

No.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Don't be sorry. No matter what would be the reason of this convention, that's like that.

Convention in France. Don't act like the Académie Française and act like your decisions have an effect out of France.

Actually, the convention is subject to debate even in France. The Académie Française doesn't follow it (and, from experience, neither do the publishing companies).

Actually, since recently I also posted in a forum of very high technicians, specialists, of the French language, if you wanna go on debates about it that's the place actually, more of that people there are not shut in their ivory tower they are very easy to debate with.

I posted there because I wondered about the presence of this accent circonflexe on my first name, Benoît, and so the debate quickly went on this accent in general, and according to what I've read from them, who follow this like people could follow politics here, the debate about presence of this accent wouldn't really really be whether or not we put it on caps, but the debate would rather be now, do we keep this accent or definitely give it up... Something which disappointed me because I liked that originality on my first name, but, well, seems the presence of this accent is really more a souvenir from the past than other thing...

Anyway, if you wanna go there, that's here, and the topic about this accent is here.

[minionofmidas]

My favorite example is that in France, stop signs can say STOP, but in Quebec they say ARRÊT.

They should say ARRÊT in France, too.

EU uniformity.

Seriously?

Not sure, actually. I know differences between signs between European countries were eliminated in the 80s, but I'm neither sure it was the EU that did that and not some voluntary agreement (perhaps larger than EU-wide, the EU was pretty small then) nor do I know what your stop signs said before that.
I know stop signs in China and Spanish America are in the native languages, though.

So... I checked Wikipedia... and they said
"The already-widespread use of the MUTCD [some convention of US states on the issue of road signage] stop sign became law in the United States in 1966. In 1968 this sign was adopted by the Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals as part of United Nations Economic Commission for Europe's effort to standardize road travel across borders. The Convention specifies that 'stop' be written in English or the national language and allows an alternative circular yellow sign. Many European countries are party to the Convention. English speaking countries, the exception being India, are not party to the Convention but usually use the red octagonal stop sign per their own standards, like the MUTCD. Even in countries not associated with either standard mentioned above the red octagonal stop sign is often used. Unique types of stop signs may be still be observed in countries like Japan."

So, yeah, nothing to do with the EU.

[Earth]

No.

[GMantis]

Quebec, as a member of a federation, has the right to set its own laws about language. Especially when there was obvious discrimination against the French language.