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« on: August 11, 2009, 11:41:17 PM »

Why is it when americans riot agianst stupid government-controlled insurance and healthcare, idiot statist liberals consider this group a mob orchestrated from insurance companies,especially when this is happening around the country, when some are democrats, when some are asking good questions(maybe a little without them yelling but other than that) ahd libs can't even ask a sincere question?

But when a black conservative from St Louise gets beat up by bunch of union mobs and when an old lady gets pushed up against a wall by more union mobs, and when a guy gets his shirt ripped open and chest cut, that's just OK, right?

If it's anything, it's these trade union jerks being orchestrated by probably liberal politicians and if not by politicians, Obama and libs politicians certainly ain't really doing anything to help out it.

SO, WHO'S THE MOB?
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 11:50:06 PM »

Please find me a quote, from anyone, claiming that the "union violence" was acceptable.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 11:57:30 PM »

I'm just saying I don't see our politicians condemning it. Please show me a link to a liberal politician(s) condemning it and I'll have some second thoughts.

Plus, these libs accuse the american people being the mob and this just makes it seem that the libs are against the people.

And I don't see the liberal media covering this. Can you show me if any lib news is covering this kind coverage?
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 12:14:28 AM »

No. The burden of proof is on you. Just because someone doesn't condemn something doesn't mean they support it. Again, please find me a quote, from anyone, claiming that the "union violence" was acceptable. Otherwise you have no argument.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2009, 12:29:37 AM »

Well, the union libs for one.

And why do conservatives condemn it more? OH... because we're the mob?

No actual liberal will come out and say they're praising it, they just don't make it as serious of a matter as it is. I mean, trade unions are mostly Obama supporters, right? and that's probably why the liberal news media don't cover the story, atleasts, I don't see coverage.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2009, 12:32:51 AM »

I'm just saying I don't see our politicians condemning it. Please show me a link to a liberal politician(s) condemning it and I'll have some second thoughts.

Plus, these libs accuse the american people being the mob and this just makes it seem that the libs are against the people.

And I don't see the liberal media covering this. Can you show me if any lib news is covering this kind coverage?
So, if you can call us "libs", then we can just call you a "sh**thead".

Why can't sh**theads like you find a link or a quote from another poster where they approved of union violence against people.

And how does bringing up union violence (without any cited evidence) justify the angry mobs encouraged by your ditto sh**theads on con-talk radio that are destroying civilized debate on our nations healthcare... other than to distract from the issue.

It's pretty obvious as well that your party lost the last election, and that healthcare was a pretty big issue (though not the biggest).  If the American people were so damn opposed to what the Democrats are pushing, then why have they overwhelmingly won the past two elections?  Why isn't John Boner the one making these decisions instead of Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama?

Stop being the party of no and start offering your own f**king ideas.  Otherwise pull your panties out of your ass crack and find a less porous argument.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2009, 12:34:56 AM »

The Republican party is stuck on 1994. They'll happily destroy this country some more in the hopes that it's still 1994.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 12:37:34 AM »

Well, the union libs for one.

And why do conservatives condemn it more? OH... because we're the mob?

No actual liberal will come out and say they're praising it, they just don't make it as serious of a matter as it is. I mean, trade unions are mostly Obama supporters, right? and that's probably why the liberal news media don't cover the story, atleasts, I don't see coverage.

This post is classic.  It's a big "lib" conspiracy from the "lib" media and the "lib" unions.  Why don't you go pop some pills with old Rush and stop wasting peoples' bandwidth with this crap.

Face it:  You just don't like it when Democrats wrestle control of the message from the distract and obstruct Republicans... so you just start pointing fingers at anybody and tack "lib" onto the front of it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 12:41:10 AM »

Well, the union libs for one.

And why do conservatives condemn it more? OH... because we're the mob?

No actual liberal will come out and say they're praising it, they just don't make it as serious of a matter as it is. I mean, trade unions are mostly Obama supporters, right? and that's probably why the liberal news media don't cover the story, atleasts, I don't see coverage.

Again, please find me a quote, from anyone, claiming that the "union violence" was acceptable. Until then you have no evidence and no argument and should probably shut up.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 12:41:38 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8194485.stm

I think the DNC ad embedded in this article is great.  It's time we gave the Republicans a little taste of their own medicine.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 12:54:20 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2009, 01:00:20 AM by politicaladdict »

I'm just saying I don't see our politicians condemning it. Please show me a link to a liberal politician(s) condemning it and I'll have some second thoughts.

Plus, these libs accuse the american people being the mob and this just makes it seem that the libs are against the people.

And I don't see the liberal media covering this. Can you show me if any lib news is covering this kind coverage?
So, if you can call us "libs", then we can just call you a "sh**thead".

Why can't sh**theads like you find a link or a quote from another poster where they approved of union violence against people.

And how does bringing up union violence (without any cited evidence) justify the angry mobs encouraged by your ditto sh**theads on con-talk radio that are destroying civilized debate on our nations healthcare... other than to distract from the issue.

It's pretty obvious as well that your party lost the last election, and that healthcare was a pretty big issue (though not the biggest).  If the American people were so damn opposed to what the Democrats are pushing, then why have they overwhelmingly won the past two elections?  Why isn't John Boner the one making these decisions instead of Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama?

Stop being the party of no and start offering your own f**king ideas.  Otherwise pull your panties out of your ass crack and find a less porous argument.

Well, the actual sh*thead is you, because you come out of an ASS, which is the symbol of DEMOQUACK PARTY!

And I bring up mob violence because liberals like to call us mobs especially when we're not being violent,  but when unions attack it's not as serious. I was  just wondering what you SH*THEADS from an ASS thought about it.

How bout when Raegan won by an even bigger landslide. It's because it's been a bad year for republicans mainly because of the Iraq War the libs also distorted in there precious media and a few other things, but don't worry, WE'LL COMEBACK! And health care is an even bigger debate right now. Plus, didn't Obama, when getting elected, promise he'd cut taxes for most americans(which is a conservative thing) and didn't he say unemployment wouldn't go past 8% when they passed the phony stimulus and his number ARE deteriating and this ain't what people asked for.

Why would I wanna be the party of changing this nation into a socialist one. We ain't the party of nothing, we're pretty much  the party of what america forefathers stood for. We don't need any socialist ideas and that's what this Obama creep is, A MARXIST!
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 12:56:51 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8194485.stm

I think the DNC ad embedded in this article is great.  It's time we gave the Republicans a little taste of their own medicine.

I get it, a peaceful protest is set up and it's our fault americans get beat up because we're expressing free-speech.

I assume you thought the TEA-PARTY was a set up, too.

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 01:07:23 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8194485.stm

I think the DNC ad embedded in this article is great.  It's time we gave the Republicans a little taste of their own medicine.

I get it, a peaceful protest is set up and it's our fault americans get beat up because we're expressing free-speech.

I assume you thought the TEA-PARTY was a set up, too.



Actually the TEA-PARTY was OUR IDEA until the moralfag Faux news squad hijacked it.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 01:15:41 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8194485.stm

I think the DNC ad embedded in this article is great.  It's time we gave the Republicans a little taste of their own medicine.

I get it, a peaceful protest is set up and it's our fault americans get beat up because we're expressing free-speech.

I assume you thought the TEA-PARTY was a set up, too.



Actually the TEA-PARTY was OUR IDEA until the moralfag Faux news squad hijacked it.

WHAT! How did Fox News hijack it?
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2009, 01:21:38 AM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8194485.stm

I think the DNC ad embedded in this article is great.  It's time we gave the Republicans a little taste of their own medicine.

I get it, a peaceful protest is set up and it's our fault americans get beat up because we're expressing free-speech.

I assume you thought the TEA-PARTY was a set up, too.



Actually the TEA-PARTY was OUR IDEA until the moralfag Faux news squad hijacked it.

WHAT! How did Fox News hijack it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1YE_N91ZQc

Please dude. If that isn't hijacking it, I don't know what is.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2009, 01:40:17 AM »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2009, 01:52:04 AM »
« Edited: August 12, 2009, 03:34:36 AM by Mechman »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!

So what? When the tea parties were first organized (in 2008 during W) people were a lot more saner at those. When Faux News and the far right hijacked them in early 2009 the sanity level of the average protestor bombed. These "Tea Parties" were protests against high taxes, not as a podium for Rick Perry to call for secession and instill very high levels of polarization and an "Us and Them" mentality at a time when polarization is tearing this nation apart.

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Do I believe Democrats are overreacting? Yes. However, I also believe that the GOP has been turning towards extreme attention whore tactics too. This is why people like me are never going to embrace the two-party system: Because it instills levels of fear, hate, and anger between people who would otherwise have no ill feelings toward each other.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2009, 12:31:51 PM »

Well, I would very much support 'union violence' if it ever occurred, but alas, historically, it is always the bosses who slaughtered the working men.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2009, 01:07:16 PM »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!

So what? When the tea parties were first organized (in 2008 during W) people were a lot more saner at those. When Faux News and the far right hijacked them in early 2009 the sanity level of the average protestor bombed. These "Tea Parties" were protests against high taxes, not as a podium for Rick Perry to call for secession and instill very high levels of polarization and an "Us and Them" mentality at a time when polarization is tearing this nation apart.

Warning, Moderate Hero response about to follow:
Do I believe Democrats are overreacting? Yes. However, I also believe that the GOP has been turning towards extreme attention whore tactics too. This is why people like me are never going to embrace the two-party system: Because it instills levels of fear, hate, and anger between people who would otherwise have no ill feelings toward each other.

I for one want to finish this current campaign and call it quits. We should go back to protecting our civil liberties after healthcare in dealt with. Perhaps we can do a Moderate Hero thing on Immigration in 2010.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2009, 09:13:54 AM »

The Republican party is stuck on 1994. They'll happily destroy this country some more in the hopes that it's still 1994.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2009, 01:46:12 PM »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!

Where are the high taxes with this president, Wingnut? The vast majority of Americans have received a tax cut as part of the stimulus

And how about this since you're a fan of "fiscal conservatism":

1. Ronald Reagan actually signed off on tax increases during six of his eight years of president in response to a growing deficit caused, in no small part, by his supply-side tax cuts which were, according to his budget director, David Stockman and his computer simulations, supposed to see GDP grow by 5%, in 1982, when, in fact, the economy contracted by 2.2%. Of course, the economy did rebound nicely thanks to, as any Keynesian economist would tell you, deficit spending!

2. Meanwhile, it was a conservative Republican, George W Bush, who pursued a policy of fiscal recklessness which was, perhaps unprecedently, skewed in favor of the wealthiest, who accomplished that most lofty goal in taking the federal government from living well within its means to anything but. Events, of course, in addition, to such recklessness, contributed to that. Not to mention the unfunded Part D - Prescription Drugs expansion to Medicare

Nevertheless, in 2004, the choice was clear. You had the promise of big insolvent government with George W Bush or the chance of big solvent government with John Kerry - and we all know who won!

So if this president has to increase taxes beyond those singles earning more than $200,000 and joint filers earning more than $250,000, you know exactly who to blame - and it isn't him. Obama wasn't bequeathed a robust economy that had generated 23 million jobs, far from it

Furthermore, the income demographic that has most to "lose" actually, on 2004, swung most heavily Democratic and, as far as healthcare reform goes, the president has set the parameters: 1) deficit neutrality and 2) no tax hikes on the middle class

Even for "conservative" Republicans, as I've pointed out, fiscal principles can often go by the wayside when faced with the realities of governing and the pressing concerns, and challenges, of the day
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2009, 02:09:28 PM »

politicaladdict, that's not a good analogy.

What is a good one however, is the Democrats' support for the Iraq war protesters, even though they were demonizing Bush and attacking Republicans in general. Same deal.
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2009, 05:21:52 PM »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!

You are aware that Obama passed the largest middle-class tax cut in history, right?
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2009, 09:26:55 PM »

Fox New is anti high-taxes and so are people, so what!

You are aware that Obama passed the largest middle-class tax cut in history, right?

Well, he's a Moderate Hero.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2009, 12:11:48 AM »

Well, I would very much support 'union violence' if it ever occurred, but alas, historically, it is always the bosses who slaughtered the working men.
Seriously?  You should probably get a fire extinguisher, your pants are clearly on fire.
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