Will we see a Gay man or a Lesbian Woman as President First?

[President Mitt]

I say Gay man.

[12th Doctor]

#1 What makes you think we haven't had a gay man?  And I am not talking about the ridiculous rumors about Lincoln or Buchanan.

#2 Honestly, I think more people would be comfortable with a open Lesbian as C-in-C.  Fact is, when most people think "gay" they still think Queer Eye.

[President Mitt]

#1 What makes you think we haven't had a gay man?  And I am not talking about the ridiculous rumors about Lincoln or Buchanan.

#2 Honestly, I think more people would be comfortable with a open Lesbian as C-in-C.  Fact is, when most people think "gay" they still think Queer Eye.

Sorry, probably should have said "openly gay".

[Verily]

#1 What makes you think we haven't had a gay man?  And I am not talking about the ridiculous rumors about Lincoln or Buchanan.

What makes you think we haven't had a lesbian? I mean, there are tons of theories out there about "Pope Joan". Maybe there was a President who was secretly female, too. William Howard Taft had very pendulous breasts.





(Editor's note: Yes, I know "Pope Joan" is just a silly fringe theory. Taking this post orally or seriously could be harmful to your health.)

[pogo stick]

Gay Man

[Antonio the Sixth]

A gay man, because a lesbian women would be twice a discriminated group and would therefore have twice less chances. Though I'm sure that one day we will also have a lesbian President.

[HAnnA MArin County]

I'm going to say we'd have a lesbian for President before we would a gay man, and this is coming from someone who represents the latter. Reason I say so is because it's a depressingly masculine society we live in and there seems to be a double standard applied to gay men vs. lesbians; what I mean is that society seems more accepting of lesbians because let's face it, it's basically every straight man's fantasy to see two girls getting it on, but the idea of two guys doing the same is viewed as "gross" and "disgusting" and is still pretty taboo.

Furthermore, we know from Hillary's historic campaign that "if we can blast 50 women into space, we will someday launch a woman into the White House." It's just a matter of when the first female will shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling, but when she does, it will make it easier for a lesbian to become President. Most straight guys I know are pretty uncomfortable around gay guys but are more than okay being around lesbians; at the same time, straight women led by Kathy Griffin do love their gay guys but probably feel a little weirded out being around lesbians. While females are the majority in this country, I really doubt that it will be a lesbian who shatters the glass ceiling and becomes the first female President so after women have succeeded in achieving that milestone, they may not feel nearly as motivated to vote for a candidate simply because she's a woman. Obviously, right now, a gay man has the upper hand simply because of his gender and the fact that we haven't had a woman as President, but I do think that in 2016 (unless for some gift from God that Hillary challenges Obama in the 2012 Democratic Primaries and wins and then goes on to thump Huckabee or Romney or Bailin' Palin in the general election) we will see a woman receive the Democratic nomination and when that day finally comes that we shatter that glass ceiling, lesbians will gain the upper hand in becoming President.

I guess it's a question of do voters want a President who will make the White House lawn look nice or a President who will give the inside of the White House a facelift, so to speak.

[k-onmmunist]

Well, the world's first openly LBGT leader of recent times is a lesbian, so I'm voting lesbian.

[Rowan]

Considering Christians are 75% of the country, the chances of a gay being elected are pretty damn slim.

[k-onmmunist]

Considering Christians are 75% of the country, the chances of a gay being elected are pretty damn slim.

The general trend is towards atheism, so that won't be the case for long.

[Rowan]

Considering Christians are 75% of the country, the chances of a gay being elected are pretty damn slim.

The general trend is towards atheism, so that won't be the case for long.

Proof?

[k-onmmunist]

Considering Christians are 75% of the country, the chances of a gay being elected are pretty damn slim.

The general trend is towards atheism, so that won't be the case for long.

Proof?

A study done by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York found that the percentage of the population that describes itself as “nonreligious” more than doubled from 1990 to 2001, from 14.3 million to 29.4 million people. The only other group to show growth was Muslims. . .
A study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that 16 percent of Americans (about 35 million) consider themselves “unaffiliated” — a category that includes “unaffiliated believers,” “secularists” and atheists/agnostics.
The latter terms — atheists and agnostics — are lumped together, says Green, because they share so many similarities. But there is a subtle difference: Atheists forthrightly affirm that there is no God; agnostics simply say as humans we can never know. Together, they constitute about 3 percent of the American population.

http://www.intheagora.com/archives/2006/03/atheism_is_the_fastest_growing_religious_identity_in_america/

[JSojourner]

Now suppose the Lesbian nominee had a Lesbian running mate...and both were hot as hell?

[k-onmmunist]

Now suppose the Lesbian nominee had a Lesbian running mate...and both were hot as hell?

I don't know how the public would react to that.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The first openly homosexual world leader is female (Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir), for what that's worth. I think I'm right with the "first" there, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Now suppose the Lesbian nominee had a Lesbian running mate...and both were hot as hell?

[k-onmmunist]

The first openly homosexual world leader is female (Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir), for what that's worth. I think I'm right with the "first" there, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That is to whom I was referring.

[JSojourner]

Now suppose the Lesbian nominee had a Lesbian running mate...and both were hot as hell?

I don't know how the public would react to that.

With national wood.  At least 50% of the public.

[afleitch]

The first openly homosexual world leader is female (Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir), for what that's worth. I think I'm right with the "first" there, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

That is to whom I was referring.

Yes. What was refreshing is how little fuss was made about it. There will have been others before, but none so open (The 'Grocer' for one jumps to mind)

[Lincoln Republican]

Neither.

[pbrower2a]

The first openly homosexual world leader is female (Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir), for what that's worth. I think I'm right with the "first" there, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Iceland is too civilized a country (its consumption of books per capita is the highest in the world) to serve as a model for the US.

OK, maybe it's the climate, but Wasilla, Alaska is almost due west of Iceland, and the former Governor isn't known for heavy reading. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

If we already haven't had a gay man, a gay man.

[Stranger in a strange land]

If we already haven't had a gay man, a gay man.

James Buchanan was probably gay, though he wasn't open, nor could he have been at the time. The first openly LGBT president will probably be a lesbian though, as lesbian women are more accepted by society than gay men are, and a lesbian is probably more likely to be seen as a tough, strong leader than a gay man.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Chill guys, I'm working on it.

[War on Want]

I'm going to say a Homosexual will never be elected president unless they are in the closet. They would not be able to win in the Democratic Primary with so many Latinos and Blacks participating, unless it is in some odd futuristic world we can't imagine.