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« on: July 14, 2004, 11:34:26 PM »

Imagine you are given the opportunity to manage any campaign in history. Which one would you choose?
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2004, 11:39:07 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2004, 05:29:06 AM »

I'd be pretty bad, so I choose George W. Bush in 2000
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2004, 12:08:53 PM »

I'd convince Polk to run for a second term and manage him in 1848
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2004, 12:24:11 PM »

I'd convince Polk to run for a second term and manage him in 1848

But then he wouldn't be so great as he would be breaking a promise.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2004, 01:31:10 PM »

I would manage Hoover’s 1932 Reelection bid. I would give out brochures that said FDR was a Communist who would sell out to Russia. I would call him a Socialist who wanted to ruin the hard working American way of life.

On the positive side I would bring up Hoover’s 18-hour work days. I would tell people to “Remember Belgium and Hoover’s work as Secretary of Commerce.

A tough campaign like that would have sent FDR crashing down in a humiliating landslide.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2004, 08:51:58 PM »

I would manage Hoover’s 1932 Reelection bid. I would give out brochures that said FDR was a Communist who would sell out to Russia. I would call him a Socialist who wanted to ruin the hard working American way of life.

On the positive side I would bring up Hoover’s 18-hour work days. I would tell people to “Remember Belgium and Hoover’s work as Secretary of Commerce.

A tough campaign like that would have sent FDR crashing down in a humiliating landslide.


You know... I saw that coming. Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2004, 11:09:01 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?

I might do Mondale in 1984 for the sole purpose of convincing him not to pick Ferraro.


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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2004, 11:09:33 PM »
« Edited: July 15, 2004, 11:10:08 PM by KucinichforPrez »

I'd manage Ted Kennedy and Gary Hart's Democratic nomination campaign.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2004, 11:19:15 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2004, 11:25:36 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2004, 10:57:33 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2004, 11:37:00 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2004, 11:50:25 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2004, 08:16:46 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.

You can have your LBJ conspiracy theory, sure, just let me have the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2004, 08:24:44 PM »

I'd convince Polk to run for a second term and manage him in 1848

But then he wouldn't be so great as he would be breaking a promise.

And he would die after 4 months.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2004, 01:55:42 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.

You can have your LBJ conspiracy theory, sure, just let me have the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Check out the program, "The Men who Killed Kennedy". It aired on the History Channel many times. I believe however the Johnson family pressured the HC to ban it forever. Whats to hide?
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2004, 07:43:23 AM »

Jo Lieberman's Primary campaign, perhaps a lost cause but I'm sure that it could have been better managed IMHO.

Failing that Ed Muskie in 1972 or Al Gore in 88 or Lloyd Bentsen in 1988 (well if he could be convinced to run for the nomination)
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2004, 08:57:51 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.

You can have your LBJ conspiracy theory, sure, just let me have the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Check out the program, "The Men who Killed Kennedy". It aired on the History Channel many times. I believe however the Johnson family pressured the HC to ban it forever. Whats to hide?

I've seen that program, although not recently. I don't beleive the LBJ Family has the right or authority to ban it because it made LBJ look bad.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2004, 11:51:44 AM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.

You can have your LBJ conspiracy theory, sure, just let me have the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Check out the program, "The Men who Killed Kennedy". It aired on the History Channel many times. I believe however the Johnson family pressured the HC to ban it forever. Whats to hide?

I've seen that program, although not recently. I don't beleive the LBJ Family has the right or authority to ban it because it made LBJ look bad.

I agree. But they certainly made a big stink about it and I believe the HC bowed to the pressure and said they'd never show the series again. Sad really.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2004, 12:59:45 PM »

I would want to manage a campaign I could help. I'll say I would want to manage Barry Goldwater's 1964 campaign. Help him win a few more states. This country would have been better off with him instead of LBJ.

Have you been hanging out with Trent Lott lately? Saying we'd be better off if racists ruled?


Some of us might not agree with the way Goldwater voted on the Civil Rights Act (I'm guessing that's what you're referring to) but that doesn't make him a racist. I think you and others have to watch how you label people. Calling someone a racist is a very strong accusation, so be ready to back it up.  And Akno one of your fellow liberals (BRTD) has said we would be better off with Goldwater rather than LBJ. I think that many Americans that voted for LBJ back in '64, after seeing how his term ended, would like to take back that vote.

BRTD is welcome to his opinion, although I disagree with it. Why did he vote against the Civil Rights Act then? Also, I may be wrong, but didn't Goldwater favor the use of Nuclear weapons in our conflicts? Would that have helped? LBJ's handling of Vietnam was unsatisfactory, and so was lying about aspects of it. His social programs, however, were extremly beneficial in moving this country forward.

Barry Goldwater (who may be racist who knows) vs a presidential assasin....hmmm tough choice. I choose AuH2O!

So you believe the conspiracy theories?

No, I believe in fact.

You can have your LBJ conspiracy theory, sure, just let me have the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Check out the program, "The Men who Killed Kennedy". It aired on the History Channel many times. I believe however the Johnson family pressured the HC to ban it forever. Whats to hide?

I've seen that program, although not recently. I don't beleive the LBJ Family has the right or authority to ban it because it made LBJ look bad.

I agree. But they certainly made a big stink about it and I believe the HC bowed to the pressure and said they'd never show the series again. Sad really.

Kinda like the Reagan mini-series. Show portrays him in less than positive way, family and friends object, show isn't put on the air.  
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2004, 08:38:39 PM »

Jo Lieberman's Primary campaign, perhaps a lost cause but I'm sure that it could have been better managed IMHO.



He should of entered the Iowa Caucus. He was winning in the polls here in Iowa.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2004, 09:17:42 PM »

Mike Dukakis 1988
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2004, 09:43:55 PM »

Ford in 80 or Gore in 00.  People who I would have preferred winning and could have won with a slightly better campaign.  Dukakis too I suppose, but he would need much more than a slightly better campaign.

Someone like McGovern would have needed a miracle.
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2004, 02:49:29 PM »

In every campaign I've ever been involved in (Real or fake) I've never lost an election, and I don't intend to start. I'd manage Humphrey's 68 campaign or Gore's 2000 campaign (I'm the best manager under 18 in the world).
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