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« on: June 24, 2004, 02:14:34 PM »
« edited: July 13, 2004, 01:02:47 PM by Blue Rectangle »

There you go, three Ds, three Rs--all "interesting".
Who represents the most gain for their party with the least risk?

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My vote: Rudy, for several reasons.  But Bill could eclipse them all (and Kerry too).
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2004, 02:31:25 PM »

Yeah, I agree with you on Rudy.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2004, 03:53:47 PM »

I doubt any of them will make a difference.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2004, 08:36:44 PM »

Bill, he's so cute of course it will be him.

*hugs cut-out poster of Bill*
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2004, 12:39:24 PM »

How's this for a "none of the above" (just broke today):
Sen. Miller to Speak at GOP Convention
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2004, 12:52:31 PM »

I hope it's Giuliani.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2004, 01:54:16 PM »



Yeaaa!  Zell!  Zell!!!  Zell!!!!!!  Zell!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2004, 02:09:12 PM »

The GOP convention should have been in Florida (Tampa, Jacksonville, either one). There, Zell Miller's speech would really make an impact, especially in driving the panhandle voters out to the polls.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2004, 02:13:11 PM »

You know ... this is pretty funny.  The hypocrisy.  The GOP can't wait to embrace Zell Miller (whose run to the right was politically motivated) but Jim Jeffords was the Devil (after he switched when the GOP reneged on campaign promises).
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2004, 07:32:39 PM »

You know ... this is pretty funny.  The hypocrisy.  The GOP can't wait to embrace Zell Miller (whose run to the right was politically motivated) but Jim Jeffords was the Devil (after he switched when the GOP reneged on campaign promises).

What political purposes are we supposed to be considering with Miller?
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2004, 07:38:50 PM »

You know ... this is pretty funny.  The hypocrisy.  The GOP can't wait to embrace Zell Miller (whose run to the right was politically motivated) but Jim Jeffords was the Devil (after he switched when the GOP reneged on campaign promises).

Yep the GOP is embracing the views of Zell Miller but was it politically motivated? NO. He has stated time and time again he will NOT become a member of the Republican party. So I'm not understanding this political motivation you speak of.

As for Jeffords we had every right to be mad. The man was re-elected in 2000 as a Republican yet just a few months after taking over in his new term, he decides the GOP is no longer his home. That move put us in the minority in the Senate. Now do I believe people shouldn't be able to switch parties? No, not at all. Some people do find that the party they currently are a member of is no longer the party that fits them right. But Jeffords realized this suddenly? He didn't think about it during his 2000 campaign? Cmon.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2004, 08:13:12 PM »

The GOP convention should have been in Florida (Tampa, Jacksonville, either one). There, Zell Miller's speech would really make an impact, especially in driving the panhandle voters out to the polls.

Absolutely.  NYC is useless to the GOP.  Though I suppose WTC imagery will remind voters in more sensible states why it is important to defeat Kerry.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2004, 08:22:31 PM »

I disagree. The GOP convention should be in New York City to promote President Bush's crowning achievement as President...his handling of the days immediately after September 11th. The convention is a national event, not a regional event, and the people who attend are ALL party regulars, so the idea of Zell Miller or anyone else being able to "reach more Southerners" at a convention in Tampa is simply not accurate. And remember, I'm in Tampa, so I really, really wanted it here so I could attend myself.

Besides, if the convention is New York City, that means more of the wacko left wingers will show up outside and protest Bush, which translates to votes for Bush as middle of the road, undecided Americans HATE those left wing extremists. Every time the leftists hold a high profile "peace rally" in the months leading up to the war it increased the support for the War in Iraq among rank and file Americans.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2004, 08:29:15 PM »

I disagree. The GOP convention should be in New York City to promote President Bush's crowning achievement as President...his handling of the days immediately after September 11th. The convention is a national event, not a regional event, and the people who attend are ALL party regulars, so the idea of Zell Miller or anyone else being able to "reach more Southerners" at a convention in Tampa is simply not accurate. And remember, I'm in Tampa, so I really, really wanted it here so I could attend myself.

Besides, if the convention is New York City, that means more of the wacko left wingers will show up outside and protest Bush, which translates to votes for Bush as middle of the road, undecided Americans HATE those left wing extremists. Every time the leftists hold a high profile "peace rally" in the months leading up to the war it increased the support for the War in Iraq among rank and file Americans.

Hah - good point!  I forgot about the protestor factor.  I personally think that's why Nixon won so big in 1972 - people just couldn't stand the leftist anti-american hippies that were protesting him.  Its not as if many people loved Nixon himself.  Perhaps Bush will have a similar re-election margin. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2004, 08:35:03 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2004, 08:36:32 PM by MarkDel »

Opebo,

There's no question that the "protestor factor" works to the favor of Republicans. It did in 1968 and it certainly did in 1972. When he was Governor of California, Ronald Reagan was immensely successful at using these VERMIN to his advantage by taking a tough stand against them everytime they expressed their hatred of him and other symbols of authority.

The average American doesn't like people like that. They are disgusted by the filthy hippie types who march and protest. And when the Democrats defend them over and over again (mainly because most of your Democratic politicians USED TO BE THOSE HIPPIES) it just serves to demonstrate to the general public how non-mainstream their party has become.
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 08:39:01 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2004, 08:39:25 PM by NHPolitico »

Gore will be watching the Dem convention from his living room-- alone, in his underwear and a T-shirt eating organic popcorn, in the dark.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 08:40:21 PM »

Rudy will be the keynoter, I'd bet.
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 08:41:54 PM »

Gore will be watching the Dem convention from his living room-- alone, in his underwear and a T-shirt eating organic popcorn, in the dark.

LOL...that's awesome!

But are you sure about that? I doubt the left wing of the party will be too happy if he's not allowed to attend.

I think Al Gore and Howard Dean should form a third party and run for President and Vice-President. You could call it the Mental Health Party. Instead of the Donkey or Elephant, their logo could be a drawing of the human brain with a big red "X" through it...LOL
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 08:42:43 PM »

Rudy will be the keynoter, I'd bet.

I hope you're right, but the far right wing of the party is not a big fan of Rudy, so you never know...
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 08:59:32 PM »

Gore will be watching the Dem convention from his living room-- alone, in his underwear and a T-shirt eating organic popcorn, in the dark.

That's mean.  I acctually feel bad for Gore.  Even though I think he deserves to be lampooned for his behavior, I don't have any distain for him like I do Clinton.
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 09:03:24 PM »

Supersoulty,

REALLY??? Bill Clinton could live in my house compared to what I think of Al Gore.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 09:27:25 PM »

Gore will be watching the Dem convention from his living room-- alone, in his underwear and a T-shirt eating organic popcorn, in the dark.

That's mean.  I acctually feel bad for Gore.  Even though I think he deserves to be lampooned for his behavior, I don't have any distain for him like I do Clinton.

I'm just saying that the DNC would be happy if he just went away quietly.
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2004, 09:28:45 PM »

I'm not so sure about that. I think there are elements in the DNC who believe that Gore is helping to make Kerry seem like the more reasonable and less extreme wing of the party.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2004, 09:34:26 PM »

Supersoulty,

REALLY??? Bill Clinton could live in my house compared to what I think of Al Gore.

Yeah, really.  Gore's case is tragic really.  He isn't a liar.  He isn't a cheat.  He just has no clue who he really is.  He has been told by his family his entire life that he was meant to be President.  With all that has happened, I think that would mess with anyones mind.
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2004, 09:36:20 PM »

Supersoulty,

REALLY??? Bill Clinton could live in my house compared to what I think of Al Gore.

Yeah, really.  Gore's case is tragic really.  He isn't a liar.  He isn't a cheat.  He just has no clue who he really is.  He has been told by his family his entire life that he was meant to be President.  With all that has happened, I think that would mess with anyones mind.

Gore is probably the tragic hero of modern politics.
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