Complete Forum Simplification Bill

[StevenNick]

This is the complete Stickies, Posts, and Polls Reduction Act of 2004 as drafted by Senators StevenNick and StatesRights.  I suggest that all further discussion of the bill be conducted here rather than in the threads for the two separate original bills.

By the way, I took the liberty to make some amendments here and there to the original Post and Polls Reduction Amendment to address some of the issues already brought up.  I hope you don't mind, States.

The Stickies, Posts, and Polls Reduction Act

Article I (Deletion of outdated and obsolete posts and polls)

Old polls created for the purpose of guaging the level of support of candidates in past elections are now obsolete and have no relevance to current events. Thus all polls created for this manner shall be deleted.

Posts which are more than 30 days old and/or do not give any relevant information or have any usefulness shall be deleted.

No threads or posts of historical value will be deleted.  Speeches, major announcements, party conventions, election results, and candidate debates will not be deleted.  None of the posts relating to the civil war or regarding other significant events in the history of the forum will be deleted.

Article II (Stickies reduction)

All threads currently stickied will hereby be condensed into one stickied thread entitled "Atlas Forum Headquarters."  The AFH thread will include a brief explanation of forum government and politics to potential members as well as links to the registration thread, the constitution, party platforms, and bills currently up for debate or vote in the senate.  The thread will contain links to each major parties forums and/or website, a list of registered voters, and a list of current office holders.  Voting threads will not be included within the "Atlas Forum Headquarters" thread considering the importance of those threads existing in a separate capacity.

Article III (Administration)

All posts and polls will be deleted by the moderator in accordance with the wishes of a three member panel to be appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate.  It will be the responsibility of the three member panel to find and catalog all polls and posts for deletion.  Any item catalogued for destruction must remain on the forum for a week before being deleted by the moderator.  Should any member of the forum object to an item's deletion, he or she may bring a complaint before the deletion panel.  The panel will have five days to rule one way or another on the item.  Any decision of the panel may be overruled by a vote of the senate.  

Sticky reduction will be the responsibility of a member of the forum to be elected by the senate with the consultation and approval of the president.

Please make any suggestions for amendments, etc on this thread.  Thank you.

[StevenNick]

First this bill will be voted on then, should it pass, the senate and the president will begin the process of appointing members of the forum to the positions created in this bill.

Just for the record, I very much want to be in charge of the unified stickied thread.

[Nation]

I wish to amend the stickies part, article II -- keep the complete list of registered voters, but I think the stickied thread for REGISTERING to vote -- for new members, should be kept separate.

knowwhatimsayin

[StevenNick]

All of these threads will exist apart from the stickied thread.  They just won't themselves be stickied.  The only thing contained in the thread proposed in the above bill would be a link sending someone to the thread where they will register.

Did that make any sense at all?

[Beet]

I thought there would be links to all the pages you mentioned.

[StevenNick]

I thought there would be links to all the pages you mentioned.

There will be.  Sorry that I phrased that last post poorly.

[Fritz]

I would like to suggest that a clause be included in this bill for the creation of a second board for the Senate and the Atlas government.  A second board will pretty much eliminate the need for virtually all the stickied threads.

[??????????]

Can we all gather together and vote on a form letter with signatures and possibly flags to post for Dave to see on the regular boards? (I don't think he reads the fantasy stuff)

[© tweed]

I oppose this bill!  There is no reason to delete old posts.

[StevenNick]

I would like to suggest that a clause be included in this bill for the creation of a second board for the Senate and the Atlas government.  A second board will pretty much eliminate the need for virtually all the stickied threads.

The senate doesn't really have any control over that, though.  Besidess, I'd rather try to find solutions for our current problems as if we won't have a second board than neglect to solve them in the hope that we may get a second board at some point in the future.

[YRABNNRM]

I oppose this bill!  There is no reason to delete old posts.

I agree with the Senator from District 1. It's much to do over nothing.

[Platypus]

This is 100% better then the original, and I will upport this as an alternative. I think Article III is a bit too bureacratic, but it's better then nothing.

[??????????]

This is 100% better then the original, and I will upport this as an alternative. I think Article III is a bit too bureacratic, but it's better then nothing.

Its the same as the first one but with the sticky act and the idea of a committee that StevenNick and I came up with.

[Platypus]

No, this one excludes significant threads from being destroyed, and includes a measure to protect them.

[The Duke]

Instead of creating a brand new three member panel, can't the Supreme Court play that role?

[12th Doctor]

I support this bill whole heartedly in it's current draft.  I would liek to request of the President that I maybe installed as a member of the Deletion Comittee once this bill is passed (which I believe it will be).

I noticed however that there is no specific protection granted to historic threads.  I feel that speeches and debates should be preserved for the historical record.

[StevenNick]

I support this bill whole heartedly in it's current draft.  I would liek to request of the President that I maybe installed as a member of the Deletion Comittee once this bill is passed (which I believe it will be).

I noticed however that there is no specific protection granted to historic threads.  I feel that speeches and debates should be preserved for the historical record.

Gotcha.  I'll add a provision to that effect.

[MAS117]

I am against Articles I and III and strongly for article II, however in II there should be the AFH and a New Reigster memebers sticky.

[StevenNick]

I am against Articles I and III and strongly for article II, however in II there should be the AFH and a New Reigster memebers sticky.

Well wonderful, Article II is the only thing that's 100% mine.

[??????????]

I am against Articles I and III and strongly for article II, however in II there should be the AFH and a New Reigster memebers sticky.

Well wonderful, Article II is the only thing that's 100% mine.

Thanks for the strong show of support!

[StevenNick]

Please people, make suggestions about what could be changed to make the bill better.  Don't just say you don't like this or you don't like that.

[??????????]

Please people, make suggestions about what could be changed to make the bill better.  Don't just say you don't like this or you don't like that.

The bill as written on page one I agree with 100% I have no objections nor do I wish to change anything. I do not look to destroy historical information. I wish to make it easier to bump relevant information as needed.

[Gustaf]

I am generally in favour of this proposal. Article II, is it, about uniting all the stickies as links from one stickied thread I think is an excellent idea. I'm also happy with me not having to go over everything! I do lean a little towards Ford's idea though, if we already have a SC can't they have the responsibility, at least? I suppose they could appoint someone else to do the actual work if they want, but 3 more positions just for this seems a little over the top to me. I am also still a little ambivalent when it comes to mass deletions...

And btw, John D. could you either get MSN or e-mail me on gustaf_lundgren@yahoo.se or lundgren_271@hotmail.com ?

[The Dowager Mod]

I like the whole bill as it is.
it will get my vote as it stands now,can't say that if it get's amendements tacked on to it though.

[Beet]

Yeah this bill sounds great. Using the SC though I dunno. I understand the idea of not creating more positions but we already have people who are enthusiastic about doing this stuff already, and the SC may not be as enthusiastic. Those who proposed the idea will have the best idea of how to go about it.