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Trilobyte
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« on: April 27, 2004, 05:18:24 PM »

Wouldn't the June release of Clinton's much-anticipated memoir steal Kerry's thunder? Why is Clinton doing this?

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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2004, 05:20:42 PM »

Wouldn't the June release of Clinton's much-anticipated memoir steal Kerry's thunder? Why is Clinton doing this?



I do not know if Clinton is intentionally trying to steal Kerry's thunder. However, assuming it is intentionally, the only reason I can see is Clinton hopes Kerry lose because he wants Hillary Clinton, his wife, to run in 2008.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2004, 08:36:59 PM »

Bill Clinton is diabolical.  He can't wait four months to release his book?  Despite what some of you red staters think, I believe that John Kerry does not want to be overly associated with Bill Clinton.  Everything Clinton does is methodical, well thought out and purposeful.  He controls the democratic party.  He wanted Dean out, he's out.  He wanted Kerry in, he's in.  He wants Kerry to lose, he will do what it takes to help Kerry lose.  Remember, if Kerry wins, Bill loses control of the party machine, and you can forget about Hillary Clinton, which there isn't a chance in hell of her being president anyway.  

The dems are killing themselves.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2004, 08:40:36 PM »

I don't think Clinton controls the Democratic party.  Your stuff sounds like something a conspiracy theorist would have.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2004, 08:44:31 PM »

Agreed.  I am a little conspiratory when it comes to Clinton.  But, the guy is brilliant and he knows politics, he is powerful and a Kerry win would sink for good the Clinton dream of President Hillary.  But, for the love of God, he can't wait a few months to release his book.  He has to do it in the middle of the summer of 2004 red hot election summer?  I mean, at least release it during the GOP convention if you want to create a scene.

Clinton has always been good and then also bad for the democrats.  This fact continues to this day.  
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2004, 10:29:03 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2004, 10:30:20 PM by President Nym90 »

Just like the Bush family deliberately manipulated the 1996 GOP primaries...they kept Powell from running, then ensured that Dole would win the nomination, then ensured that Dole would lose. They wanted W in 2000 so they had to ensure Clinton's reelection. The Bush family are all diabolical and excellent politicians, and they didn't want to relinquish control of the GOP.

Note that I don't believe any of the above, but how is it any different, really, than what you are saying? This conspiracy theory crap is just ridiculous.

Plus, how does Clinton's book hurt Kerry? A lot of your ilk said the same thing in 2000..."they can't have Clinton campaign because he looks so good that he makes Gore look bad by comparison..."

What kind of twisted logic is that? It hurts a party's candidate to have a highly popular and successful President from their party in the spotlight? I suppose Bush was hurt in 1988 by having Reagan campaign for him?

I don't know when Reagan's memoirs were released, but if they had been released in summer 1992, would that have hurt Bush's reelection campaign that year?
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2004, 02:32:06 AM »

Agreed.  I am a little conspiratory when it comes to Clinton.  But, the guy is brilliant and he knows politics, he is powerful and a Kerry win would sink for good the Clinton dream of President Hillary.  But, for the love of God, he can't wait a few months to release his book.  He has to do it in the middle of the summer of 2004 red hot election summer?  I mean, at least release it during the GOP convention if you want to create a scene.

Clinton has always been good and then also bad for the democrats.  This fact continues to this day.  
very true
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2004, 07:03:12 AM »

Just like the Bush family deliberately manipulated the 1996 GOP primaries...they kept Powell from running, then ensured that Dole would win the nomination, then ensured that Dole would lose. They wanted W in 2000 so they had to ensure Clinton's reelection. The Bush family are all diabolical and excellent politicians, and they didn't want to relinquish control of the GOP.

Note that I don't believe any of the above, but how is it any different, really, than what you are saying? This conspiracy theory crap is just ridiculous.

Plus, how does Clinton's book hurt Kerry? A lot of your ilk said the same thing in 2000..."they can't have Clinton campaign because he looks so good that he makes Gore look bad by comparison..."

What kind of twisted logic is that? It hurts a party's candidate to have a highly popular and successful President from their party in the spotlight? I suppose Bush was hurt in 1988 by having Reagan campaign for him?

I don't know when Reagan's memoirs were released, but if they had been released in summer 1992, would that have hurt Bush's reelection campaign that year?

I guess it could go either way, I still think releasing the book in June is a bad idea for dems.  Clinton takes up all the dem air in a room.  
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2004, 10:32:09 PM »

Remember when the phrase "a wad of bills" meant lots of cash?

Now it's a stain on a blue dress.  Sad
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