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« on: April 15, 2004, 01:40:16 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/15/student.poll/index.html

The poll of 1,205 college students, conducted March 13-23, found Kerry leading Bush 48 percent to 38 percent, with independent Ralph Nader drawing 5 percent. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.



http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/2000vote/general/exitpoll_hub.html
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2004, 01:47:40 PM »

Not surprising, I thought it was common knowledge that most young people vote liberal!
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2004, 05:21:56 PM »

  Younger people may be more Libertarian, but not liberal. Note this is a poll among students, I am not sure if they consider students in 2 year schools as students or not, or simpily restrict it to 4 years schools. Students at 4 years school are far more liberal than those at 2 year/tech schools.

  None the less, Bush and his mis steps on trade with China, job outsourcing and illegal immigration amnesty has made a negative impact on many younger voters who are very concerned about their future employment prospects.
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2004, 05:24:06 PM »

I'm surprised the Bush support was as high as 38%. I wish this poll did an approval rating of the President because that's where you see a great voting range for John Kerry to usurp.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2004, 05:31:29 PM »



    I doubt turn out for 18-24 year olds will be any higher this year, the under 35 age group is quite cynical about politics, and see both parties as beholden to special intrest groups and business(Hence no one doing anything about globalisation and illegal immigration).
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2004, 05:56:44 PM »

Bush supporters among the youngsters may very well outnumber Kerry supporters in the Bush-2000 states.  I think a lot of youthful types feel inhibited to admit they are Republicans or plan to vote for Bush, due to the extreme ideological bias seen on college campuses.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2004, 08:47:16 PM »

Truthfully speaking, I thought Bush would fare pretty well (better than Kerry), with Nader leading by way more than he would all other adults.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2004, 08:53:08 PM »

Younger voters tend to be very socially liberal while economically in favor of regulation and whatnot as well.  
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2004, 08:56:45 PM »

I think the most significant thing in this poll is that Nader is only Polling at 5%

The youth vote was his biggest voting bloc in 2000....if the youth have abandoned him....he is toast.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2004, 09:17:47 PM »

Where was this media attention when Bush was leading and the GOP gained among college students in the Oct. 2003 poll?

Bush has lost a huge amount of support among young voters and this is a terrible trend for our party.   Students were actually more supportive of the Iraq war than their older counterparts and I remember jumping up and down screaming for joy the last time this poll was done because of its pro-Republican results.

Our generation is overwhelmingly socially libertarian and economically moderate to conservative.  There could have been a Republican base built here but we have squandered a mighty opportunity here, and we will reap the consequences.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2004, 09:34:58 PM »

Our generation is overwhelmingly socially libertarian and economically moderate to conservative.

how does outlawing abortion, a gay marraige ban, and exploding deficits fit into that group?


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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2004, 09:35:53 PM »

Perhaps - but keep in mind we led this poll and Republicans held a decent lead over Democrat identifiers in Oct. '03.

Bush supporters among the youngsters may very well outnumber Kerry supporters in the Bush-2000 states.  I think a lot of youthful types feel inhibited to admit they are Republicans or plan to vote for Bush, due to the extreme ideological bias seen on college campuses.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2004, 09:37:15 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 09:38:26 PM by htmldon »

It doesn't, and thats why I advocate going back emphasizing outlawing partial-birth abortion, letting states define marriage, and actually *gasp* CUTTING government.  Yes.. I know... cutting government... not very Republican of me nowadays :-(   We had a lead among students when we had those positions.

Our generation is overwhelmingly socially libertarian and economically moderate to conservative.

how does outlawing abortion, a gay marraige ban, and exploding deficits fit into that group?



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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2004, 09:38:25 PM »

not economically moderate-to-conservative, we're the biggest opponents of outsourcing and free trade. The GOP is owned by the religious right, and that's turning off most of us. The religious right was what caused the rise of the GOP, but it will be its downfall in the end.
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2004, 09:40:43 PM »

I meant on issues of taxes/spending.  And I also meant conservative in an ideological sense, not in a "Wow, lets cut taxes and raise spending too" sense.

And we aren't going to let the "religious" right bring us down.

not economically moderate-to-conservative, we're the biggest opponents of outsourcing and free trade. The GOP is owned by the religious right, and that's turning off most of us. The religious right was what caused the rise of the GOP, but it will be its downfall in the end.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2004, 09:44:43 PM »

how many Republicans have distanced themselves from Jerry Falwell?

and since I hardly pay any taxes, taxes aren't an issue for me one bit. That's why I oppose any tax cuts now. When I make more money, I might support some. Yes, I'm selfish Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2004, 09:46:16 PM »

If the religious right is still controlling the social agenda of the GOP twenty years from now...the GOP will become as irrelevent as the Whigs.

At some point the 'Swarzenegger wing' are going to go head on with the 'Santorum wing'.  and Arnold is going to win. The Toomey v Spector fight this year will be an interesting preview
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2004, 11:58:10 PM »

How many Republicans have gotten cozy with Falwell in recent years?  I honestly can't think of many... or any.

how many Republicans have distanced themselves from Jerry Falwell?

and since I hardly pay any taxes, taxes aren't an issue for me one bit. That's why I oppose any tax cuts now. When I make more money, I might support some. Yes, I'm selfish Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2004, 11:58:53 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2004, 11:59:19 PM by htmldon »

Arnold shall prevail! Smiley   He terminates both bigots and Democrats!

If the religious right is still controlling the social agenda of the GOP twenty years from now...the GOP will become as irrelevent as the Whigs.

At some point the 'Swarzenegger wing' are going to go head on with the 'Santorum wing'.  and Arnold is going to win. The Toomey v Spector fight this year will be an interesting preview
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« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2004, 07:50:19 AM »

If the religious right is still controlling the social agenda of the GOP twenty years from now...the GOP will become as irrelevent as the Whigs.

At some point the 'Swarzenegger wing' are going to go head on with the 'Santorum wing'.  and Arnold is going to win. The Toomey v Spector fight this year will be an interesting preview

It should be noted though that Santorum is actively campaigning for Specter.  But that's the good old boy system at work.
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« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2004, 03:54:04 PM »

THATS BECAUSE YOU ASKED LIBERAL STUDENTS
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2004, 03:55:16 PM »

Young people don't care for the President.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2004, 04:04:08 PM »

How many Republicans have gotten cozy with Falwell in recent years?  I honestly can't think of many... or any.

how many Republicans have distanced themselves from Jerry Falwell?

and since I hardly pay any taxes, taxes aren't an issue for me one bit. That's why I oppose any tax cuts now. When I make more money, I might support some. Yes, I'm selfish Smiley

How about Rep. Walter Jones, who appeared on the 700 Club to talk about his "House of Worship Free Speech Protection Act" which would allow churches to say anything they wanted about politics (such as if you vote for any Democrat you will go to hell) and not lose their tax exempt status. Or Sen. James Inhofe, who spoke at a Christian Coalition fundraiser telling everyone they had to "vote the liberals out" and would be doing God's work in doing so. Or all the people sponsoring the "Constitution Restoration Act" which does the exact opposite, it was meant to protect people like Roy Moore. Or all the sponsors of the Federal Marriage Amendment?
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