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« on: August 14, 2004, 07:08:40 AM »

Say Wildcard reminds me of McCain and JFK is kinda comparable with John Edwards…

Who am I most like… I’d say Evan Byah, but hey what do I know? Cheesy    
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2004, 10:53:14 AM »

Who am I like?  I am a free market capitalist with conservative views on abortion.  I believe that no one can infringe upon an innocent human beings freedom to live.  Some say that an unborn child is not a life, so the mother should have the right to control her own body, but if the unborn child is a life (as I believe) then the unborn child’s freedom to live cannot be denied.  I do not take this stance on the abortion issue because I want to deny liberty, but because I do not want the liberty of the weak and undefended to be taken away.  I my view on abortion is not inconsistent with my other views; it is consistent with my belief that, “individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2004, 12:13:42 PM »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2004, 12:17:58 PM »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink

Actually, that makes you libertarian. It's the basis of libetarian philosophy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2004, 12:23:05 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2004, 12:34:12 PM by Michael Z »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink

How does that make him a liberal, technically?

Free Market Capitalist's core belief is part of what liberalism is. But of course since "liberal" has come to mean something entirely different through the years, it obviously means he isn't a liberal in the colloquial sense of the word. No idea if this makes sense or not.

But John Dibble is right, it's quintessentially libertarianism (even though in Europe libertarian=liberal, and liberal=social democrat... and I have absolutely no idea if this makes any sense either.)
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2004, 12:36:56 PM »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink

How does that make him a liberal, technically?

Free Market Capitalist's core belief is part of liberalism is. But of course since "liberal" has come to mean something entirely different through the years, it obviously means he isn't a liberal in the colloquial sense of the word. No idea if this makes sense or not.

But John Dibble is right, it's quintessentially libertarianism (even though in Europe libertarian=liberal, and liberal=social democrat... and I have absolutely no idea if this makes any sense either.)

It makes sense, I just wasn't sure what definition you were using.  In other words this one:

2. POLITICS: political theory stressing individualism: a political ideology with its beginnings in western Europe that rejects authoritarian government and defends freedom of speech, association, and religion, and the right to own property

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Yep, that's the one. Smiley In a way it's fascinating how ideologies have attained different meanings over the years.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2004, 12:44:30 PM »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink

I believe that. I'm certainly not liberal.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2004, 12:51:09 PM »

What politican am I most like? :S
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2004, 01:16:01 PM »

Hmmmm, let's see...

Al = Kim Howells Wink
Better Red Than Dead = Dennis Kucinich
Brambila = Alan Keyes
Freedomburns = Howard Dean
Htmldon = Lamar Alexander
Ilikeverin  = Barack Obama
John Ford = Dick Cheney
Keystone Phil = Rick Santorum
Lewis Trondheim = Joschka Fischer
M = Ariel Sharon
MarkDel = Jack Kemp
Mr. Fresh = Bill Frist
Supersoulty = John McCain
Walter Mitty = Chuck Hagel

That's all I could think of so far. Comments are welcome.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2004, 01:50:36 PM »

Hmmmm, let's see...

Al = Kim Howells Wink
Better Red Than Dead = Dennis Kucinich
Brambila = Alan Keyes
Freedomburns = Howard Dean
Htmldon = Lamar Alexander
Ilikeverin  = Barack Obama
John Ford = Dick Cheney
Keystone Phil = Rick Santorum
Lewis Trondheim = Joschka Fischer
M = Ariel Sharon
MarkDel = Jack Kemp
Mr. Fresh = Bill Frist
Supersoulty = John McCain
Walter Mitty = Chuck Hagel

That's all I could think of so far. Comments are welcome.

This list is pretty reasonable except I would have

ILikeVerin=Ralph Nader Wink

I would agree with Ben that he is Bayh. I think I would probably be Giuliani.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2004, 01:57:44 PM »

I think I'm like Al Gore, or Howard Dean.  
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2004, 02:06:28 PM »

Who am I like?
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2004, 02:30:48 PM »

what about me?
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2004, 02:37:52 PM »


That's great, except for the fact I'm not black, pro-affirmative action, or pro-marijuana Grin
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2004, 02:38:36 PM »

Hmmmm, let's see...

Al = Kim Howells Wink
Better Red Than Dead = Dennis Kucinich
Brambila = Alan Keyes
Freedomburns = Howard Dean
Htmldon = Lamar Alexander
Ilikeverin  = Barack Obama
John Ford = Dick Cheney
Keystone Phil = Rick Santorum
Lewis Trondheim = Joschka Fischer
M = Ariel Sharon
MarkDel = Jack Kemp
Mr. Fresh = Bill Frist
Supersoulty = John McCain
Walter Mitty = Chuck Hagel

That's all I could think of so far. Comments are welcome.

This list is pretty reasonable except I would have

ILikeVerin=Ralph Nader Wink
LOL, uh oh.  Thank goodness I don't have THE EYE!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2004, 03:06:00 PM »


Right wing Lyndon LaRouche.

Or maybe Pat Buchanan.

Or whoever the Prohibiton Parties candidate is...
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2004, 03:58:50 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2004, 03:59:31 PM by Senate Candidate Handzus26 »

Politically- Joe Hoeffel
Looks- Ted Kennedy-40 years-some hair.

Any thoughts?  Demoteen feel free to comment
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2004, 04:55:52 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2004, 06:47:11 PM by free market capitalist »

“individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”

Technically speaking that makes you a liberal. Wink

As you know Michael Z, I have strong beliefs about religion, and what is right and wrong.  That does not mean that the government should force citizens to live according to those beliefs.  I believe that individuals have the right to make their own decisions as long as they do not harm others or infringe upon the freedoms of others.  On a personal level I would try to convince people to accept my views about what is right and wrong, as I did with you in a discussion a long time ago.  I stand by what I have said.  


I believe that individuals have the right to make their own decisions as long as they do not harm others or infringe upon the freedoms of others.  I do not believe that those decisions should necessarily be endorsed by the government, but the government should not prohibit them.  I believe that no human ruler should suffocate the fire of liberty from human oppression that burns in us.  Across the ages humans have shown that, rather than suffer under the slavery of others, they would live free or die.  The American Revolution was fought over the issue of economic freedom.  This nation was founded upon the principles of economic and religious freedom.  Now we have forgotten what so many have died for.  We would trade the freedoms bought with blood for the empty promises of liberalism and socialism.  I fear a dark day when we will wake up and look at our shackled wrists and ankles and wonder what our chains have bought us, but by then it will be too late.  The liberal master demands that we trade our liberty for equality and the payment, by others, of the consequences for our actions. Some may wonder how these beliefs are compatible with my pro-life views.  I will explain.  I believe that no one can infringe upon an innocent human beings freedom to live.  Some say that an unborn child is not a life, so the mother should have the right to control her own body, but if the unborn child is a life (as I believe) then the unborn child’s freedom to live cannot be denied.  I do not take this stance on the abortion issue because I want to deny liberty, but because I do not want the liberty of the weak and undefended to be taken away.  I my view on abortion is not inconsistent with my other views; it is consistent with my belief that, “individuals have the right to make their own decisions AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”   If the government did not protect people from the immoral acts of others if they do not desire those acts, THEN THE IMMORAL WOULD BE FORCING THEIR MORALITY ON OTHERS.    

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2004, 05:01:11 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2004, 06:46:07 PM by free market capitalist »

The positive results of morality cannot be created without morality itself, and no government can change the morality of its people.  The government cannot create the positive results of morality, only individuals can. The government should not legislate morality, but it should protect people from the immoral acts of others IF, IF they do not desire those acts.  So I am not saying that we should have a lawless nation, but that the laws should protect people who do not desire those acts to be performed on them.  This is why “I BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECESIONS AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”  I also am not saying that I endorse those actions, but right now I am talking about the government’s attitude toward those actions.  Some may wonder how these beliefs are compatible with my pro-life views.  I will explain.  I believe that no one can infringe upon an innocent human beings freedom to live.  Some say that an unborn child is not a life, so the mother should have the right to control her own body, but if the unborn child is a life (as I believe) then the unborn child’s freedom to live cannot be denied.  I do not take this stance on the abortion issue because I want to deny liberty, but because I do not want the liberty of the weak and undefended to be taken away.  I my view on abortion is not inconsistent with my other views; it is consistent with my belief that, “individuals have the right to make their own decisions as long as they do not HARM OTHERS OR INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOMS OF OTHERS.”  If the government did not protect people from the immoral acts of others if they do not desire those acts, THEN THE IMMORAL WOULD BE FORCING THEIR MORALITY ON OTHERS.        
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2004, 06:30:44 PM »
« Edited: August 14, 2004, 06:33:18 PM by Gabu »

This list is pretty reasonable except I would have

ILikeVerin=Ralph Nader Wink

Ouch.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2004, 06:38:44 PM »

This list is pretty reasonable except I would have

ILikeVerin=Ralph Nader Wink

Ouch.

I meant on the issues Wink
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2004, 06:44:04 PM »


Ouch!  I what way?
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2004, 06:56:33 PM »


I think he might have you and me backwards.  I'm more like McCain and you're more like Cheney.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2004, 07:05:33 PM »

Regarding the actual topic, I'd like to think that I was a slightly more conservative version of Howard Dean.  I don't really know, though; it's hard to judge oneself accurately.
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2004, 07:34:57 PM »

Which politician am I most like?
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