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« on: May 03, 2009, 11:55:19 PM »

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html


Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?
By Maia Szalavitz Sunday, Apr. 26, 2009
   
Pop quiz: Which European country has the most liberal drug laws? (Hint: It's not the Netherlands.)

Although its capital is notorious among stoners and college kids for marijuana haze–filled "coffee shops," Holland has never actually legalized cannabis — the Dutch simply don't enforce their laws against the shops. The correct answer is Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine.

At the recommendation of a national commission charged with addressing Portugal's drug problem, jail time was replaced with the offer of therapy. The argument was that the fear of prison drives addicts underground and that incarceration is more expensive than treatment — so why not give drug addicts health services instead? Under Portugal's new regime, people found guilty of possessing small amounts of drugs are sent to a panel consisting of a psychologist, social worker and legal adviser for appropriate treatment (which may be refused without criminal punishment), instead of jail.


The question is, does the new policy work? At the time, critics in the poor, socially conservative and largely Catholic nation said decriminalizing drug possession would open the country to "drug tourists" and exacerbate Portugal's drug problem; the country had some of the highest levels of hard-drug use in Europe. But the recently released results of a report commissioned by the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, suggest otherwise.

The paper, published by Cato in April, found that in the five years after personal possession was decriminalized, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.

"Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success," says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. "It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does."

Compared to the European Union and the U.S., Portugal's drug use numbers are impressive. Following decriminalization, Portugal had the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the E.U.: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%. Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana.

The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%; drug use in older teens also declined. Lifetime heroin use among 16-to-18-year-olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8% (although there was a slight increase in marijuana use in that age group). New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003, and deaths related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half. In addition, the number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and money saved on enforcement allowed for increased funding of drug-free treatment as well.

Portugal's case study is of some interest to lawmakers in the U.S., confronted now with the violent overflow of escalating drug gang wars in Mexico. The U.S. has long championed a hard-line drug policy, supporting only international agreements that enforce drug prohibition and imposing on its citizens some of the world's harshest penalties for drug possession and sales. Yet America has the highest rates of cocaine and marijuana use in the world, and while most of the E.U. (including Holland) has more liberal drug laws than the U.S., it also has less drug use.

"I think we can learn that we should stop being reflexively opposed when someone else does [decriminalize] and should take seriously the possibility that anti-user enforcement isn't having much influence on our drug consumption," says Mark Kleiman, author of the forthcoming When Brute Force Fails: How to Have Less Crime and Less Punishment and director of the drug policy analysis program at UCLA. Kleiman does not consider Portugal a realistic model for the U.S., however, because of differences in size and culture between the two countries.

But there is a movement afoot in the U.S., in the legislatures of New York State, California and Massachusetts, to reconsider our overly punitive drug laws. Recently, Senators Jim Webb and Arlen Specter proposed that Congress create a national commission, not unlike Portugal's, to deal with prison reform and overhaul drug-sentencing policy. As Webb noted, the U.S. is home to 5% of the global population but 25% of its prisoners.

At the Cato Institute in early April, Greenwald contended that a major problem with most American drug policy debate is that it's based on "speculation and fear mongering," rather than empirical evidence on the effects of more lenient drug policies. In Portugal, the effect was to neutralize what had become the country's number one public health problem, he says.

"The impact in the life of families and our society is much lower than it was before decriminalization," says Joao Castel-Branco Goulao, Portugual's "drug czar" and president of the Institute on Drugs and Drug Addiction, adding that police are now able to re-focus on tracking much higher level dealers and larger quantities of drugs.

Peter Reuter, a professor of criminology and public policy at the University of Maryland, like Kleiman, is skeptical. He conceded in a presentation at the Cato Institute that "it's fair to say that decriminalization in Portugal has met its central goal. Drug use did not rise." However, he notes that Portugal is a small country and that the cyclical nature of drug epidemics — which tends to occur no matter what policies are in place — may account for the declines in heroin use and deaths.

The Cato report's author, Greenwald, hews to the first point: that the data shows that decriminalization does not result in increased drug use. Since that is what concerns the public and policymakers most about decriminalization, he says, "that is the central concession that will transform the debate."
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 12:40:48 AM »

Though I favor legalizing some drugs and easing the punishment for some others, I wouldn't trust a toothpick from the Cato Institute.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 11:38:10 AM »

It's decriminalization, not legalization, as the article makes clear.

And come on marokai--at least read what they have to say.

I must say that from my anecdotal experience, for what that's worth, decriminalization seems to be a success.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 11:38:56 AM »

Though I favor legalizing some drugs and easing the punishment for some others, I wouldn't trust a toothpick from the Cato Institute.

Do you dispute the numbers? If these are wrong then can you provide me with the real ones? And this is an article by Time magazine, not Cato. You don't have to agree with their conclusions from the data, but if you are accusing them of fudging numbers then you better have proof of that.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2009, 11:42:33 AM »

It's decriminalization, not legalization, as the article makes clear.


It seems like legalization to me. No tickets, no obligation to attend rehabilitation( although more people are using the resources given to them). But I guess the black market for drugs still exists?
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2009, 12:59:29 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2009, 01:01:10 PM by Torie »

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That 40% figure for the US is ludicrous, or at least false and misleading. Maybe 40% have used pot in their lifetimes, but regular users I think is closer to 8% or something isn't it?

Is pot sold in shops in Portugal as in California?
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 01:04:02 PM »

But I guess the black market for drugs still exists?

So long as distribution and creation is still de facto illegal, (I don't know about Portugal, the article isn't clear on that) a black market would still exist. The only way to have disappear is to legalize manufacture and distribution.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 03:49:29 PM »

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That 40% figure for the US is ludicrous, or at least false and misleading. Maybe 40% have used pot in their lifetimes, but regular users I think is closer to 8% or something isn't it?

Is pot sold in shops in Portugal as in California?

Yes it is lifetime use which is actually stated in the part you quoted. Tongue

As for your second question, I am not sure and I am curious to know. If it isn't sold in legal shops then it doesn't solve the criminal problems associated with drugs. Of course in California only those with a card can buy from those shops so the problems associated with a black market exist in California as well.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 03:57:46 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2009, 04:00:35 PM by Torie »

Oh, my tired old eyes just zipped over the word "lifetime" without comprehending it. Isn't that sad?  Anyway, a lifetime percentage strikes me as pretty irrelevant to anything that matters. Would not you agree Sbane?

Regarding the pot card in California, have you ever seen the list of medical conditions that can be treated by pot, and are a basis for obtaining a card?  It is quite hilarious. The trick is to think of a medical condition that is not on the list. I don't think I saw herpes on it, so I guess I just thought of one not on the list. But then, there is the "pain" associated with herpes, so well, there is more than one road to Rome anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 04:29:53 PM »
« Edited: May 04, 2009, 04:36:58 PM by sbane »

The more interesting stats were about the youngs. Among them drug use decreased as the years went on. Teenagers were doing less drugs when it was decriminalized.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2009, 03:21:48 AM »

To answer your question, no you cannot buy anything in a store, but at least for pot, everyone knows a guy who knows a guy.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2009, 10:30:43 AM »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2009, 11:36:59 AM »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.

Do you also support prohibition for alcohol?
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2009, 12:19:12 PM »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.

Proof please.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 12:34:24 PM »

Portugal is awesome.
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2009, 12:42:01 PM »

To answer your question, no you cannot buy anything in a store, but at least for pot, everyone knows a guy who knows a guy.

Isn't that basically true everywhere?
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2009, 12:49:18 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2009, 12:58:56 PM by Mint »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.
The post-1960s crackdown on drugs has done nothing to decrease use, all it's done is make hard drugs less expensive, purer, and created violent turf wars. The price of heroin alone has crashed, even 10 years ago it was drastically more expensive. In fact today it's often cheaper than a six pack of beer!
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 10:59:09 AM »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.
The post-1960s crackdown on drugs has done nothing to decrease use, all it's done is make hard drugs less expensive, purer, and created violent turf wars. The price of heroin alone has crashed, even 10 years ago it was drastically more expensive. In fact today it's often cheaper than a six pack of beer!

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 03:50:31 PM »

Decriminalising drugs will destroy society.

Do you also support prohibition for alcohol?
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 02:45:54 AM »

It seems like legalization to me. No tickets, no obligation to attend rehabilitation( although more people are using the resources given to them). But I guess the black market for drugs still exists?

You're not punished for posession and use anymore, but the growth and sale of drugs is still illegal. The article says that police can now focus on large-scale drug operations, so they're still fighting it, just not at the individual level.

Legalization would mean that you could legally grow drugs in Portugal, sell them, and would have to pay taxes on it. Now they just turn a blind eye to the black market.

Seems silly to me, just legalize it fully if decriminalization worked so well.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2009, 08:54:16 AM »

Legalization would mean that you could legally grow drugs in Portugal, sell them, and would have to pay taxes on it. Now they just turn a blind eye to the black market.

Seems silly to me, just legalize it fully if decriminalization worked so well.

I agree. In Holland, coffee shops have to buy their merchandise to the world market of drug traffickers, for example it can lead them to buy on the Afghani market, and we know where the money could go there, and anyway it always go in the pocket of the criminal market.

I don't smoke, and I'm not a fan of all what can twist the common perception of the reality, but it also seems to me that a total legalization from the growth to the customer is by far the most logical, the most fair, the most intelligent and especially when we speak about cannabis, and that alcohol is legal. Two drugs that are pretty similar in terms of dangerousness. So, we take both or neither of them.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009, 01:56:50 AM »

It seems like legalization to me. No tickets, no obligation to attend rehabilitation( although more people are using the resources given to them). But I guess the black market for drugs still exists?

You're not punished for posession and use anymore, but the growth and sale of drugs is still illegal. The article says that police can now focus on large-scale drug operations, so they're still fighting it, just not at the individual level.

Legalization would mean that you could legally grow drugs in Portugal, sell them, and would have to pay taxes on it. Now they just turn a blind eye to the black market.

Seems silly to me, just legalize it fully if decriminalization worked so well.

I feel the same way. Decriminalization certainly helps out people who use drugs and don't harm anyone else. Yet it still does not solve the huge problems caused by prohibition that many choose to ignore.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2009, 10:05:01 AM »

Well, this is one small step in the right direction at the very least, though in my opinion I would like to see things go further and see drugs like cannabis to be treated like tobacco is- allowing its mass production and taxing it, and so on.  This extra tax revenue can then go to fund rehabilitation and education programmes too.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2009, 03:29:21 PM »

I'm a decriminalization supporter.
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