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« on: June 18, 2005, 11:40:39 AM »
« edited: June 18, 2005, 12:44:08 PM by SoFA True Democrat »

What would a map look like?

Here's states you know:

Michigan: 57-43 for Lewis
Illinois: Gilliam
New York: Gilliam, I think it's fairly close
Texas: Lewis, kind of close, Gilliam campaign here
California: Close for Gilliam
Texas: 65% for Lewis, I get the feeling that this is his home state.

When the East coast polls close, Gilliam is up a couple of points.  Minority turnout is over 90%.  Whites don't really like Lewis that much.  There is a push on the West coast to make Lewis win California.  Gilliam is down 59-41 the night before the election, but  he does very well in the debate and makes the election close.  Lewis uses negative campaigning.  The teamsters endorse Gilliam at the last minutes.  Lewis has connections with the energy companies.  Gilliam does not follow the party lines.  He is an alderman from D.C.  Lewis is a war hero, has been Vice-President for 8 years, and is Sharon Stone's cousin, but Sharon Stone endorses Gilliam.  Lewis doesn't want new gun control laws, which is a big issue.  Some big business favors Gilliam.  Gilliam's VP is his brother, a bail bondsman from Chicago.

And if you didn't know, this is from the movie Head of State.

Just a note: Gilliam wins in the movie.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2005, 11:46:42 AM »

While I love the movie (I have it right next to me at my desk actually) it was so unrealistic. Lewis would destroy Gilliam. Also, Gilliam picks his brother as his running mate. Come on now.




Lewis - 388
Gilliam - 150
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2005, 11:57:34 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2005, 12:04:00 PM by SoFA True Democrat »

While I love the movie (I have it right next to me at my desk actually) it was so unrealistic. Lewis would destroy Gilliam. Also, Gilliam picks his brother as his running mate. Come on now.




Lewis - 388
Gilliam - 150

I think the South would actually really close.  Remember, minority turnout is over 90% (and almost all for Gilliam) and Whites aren't turning out because they don't like Lewis.  Also, remember that all minorities turnout big for Gilliam.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2005, 12:09:07 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2005, 12:38:57 PM by SoFA True Democrat »

I know, it's a huge stretch.  It all depends on white turnout.  I'm thinking that in this scenario white turnout is in the low 40s all over the country, but in the 30s out West.

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2005, 12:10:18 PM »

While I love the movie (I have it right next to me at my desk actually) it was so unrealistic. Lewis would destroy Gilliam. Also, Gilliam picks his brother as his running mate. Come on now.




Lewis - 388
Gilliam - 150

I think the South would actually really close.  Remember, minority turnout is over 90% (and almost all for Gilliam) and Whites aren't turning out because they don't like Lewis.  Also, remember that all minorities turnout big for Gilliam.

If we're playing in their fantasy land than it would be closer but not all that much. In reality, I think my map is pretty accurate.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2005, 12:12:25 PM »

Don't forget, Lewis pisses off every immigrant and son of an immigrant by his slogan "God Bless American and NO Place Else!!!".
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2005, 12:21:57 PM »

Don't forget, Lewis pisses off every immigrant and son of an immigrant by his slogan "God Bless American and NO Place Else!!!".

Haha. That line has me laughing everytime I hear it. The Republican stereotype in that movie is hilarious. It still wouldn't cost him a landslide win. Gilliam is an Alderman running with his brother.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2005, 12:32:21 PM »

Let's take Mississippi as an example. Turnout in Mississippi was about 56% in 2004. Black turnout was about 53% and white turnout was about 58%. Blacks made up 34% of 2004 voters and whites made up 65% of 2004 voters. Now, if we depress white turnout to 50% and raise black turnout to 90%, blacks go up to 51.6% of voters and whites fall to 48% of voters. Then, let's say Gilliam receives 95% of the black vote and 20% of the white vote. Lewis receives 5% of the black vote and 80% of the white vote. That leaves us with Gilliam receiving 58.66% of the vote and Lewis getting 41.34% of the vote.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2005, 02:47:21 PM »

Trust Chris Rock to make race such a big issue in an election campaign.  That guy really pisses me off some times.

Anyway, you may continue.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2005, 07:26:49 AM »

HELL, NO! I'm aMAYSed at MAYS!
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 04:00:32 PM »

Sorry for the thread necromancy, but the West Wing thread gave me an idea of doing an electoral map for Head Of State. Although highly implausible, it's one of my favorite movies lol

Ok Here is how I think it would go down...I think the map would hella like OTL 2000 map, and May's states are won on Gore like margins((Cuz let's face it, the movie never mentions a Terrorist attack, as the nation would never believable hand over a War to an alderman). It's extremley close, as Vice President Lewis is able to win over a significant amount of Working class voters in the industrial states to pick up Michigan and Ohio. Increased liberal and black voter turn out give May's Florida and New Hampshire. California is almost to close to call, as it becomes essential for either candidate to win. Here is how it looks.



Mays Gilliam: 271 Electoral Votes
Brian Lewis: 267 Electoral Votes
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