Who won the Northern white vote?

[CJK]

Do we know with any certainty?

[Franzl]

Do we know with any certainty?

Depends on your defintion of Northern, I'd imagine.

Seriously though, there's absolutely no certainty, but you could combine the exit poll data from every state you consider to be "Northern" and apply that to the number of votes cast in those states.

But exit polls aren't necessarily correct, of course.

Just assuming they're entirely correct, though, as we have nothing else to base this on, I would imagine that McCain still won the Northern white vote by a safe margin....but obviously less than North and South combined.

[memphis]

Do we know with any certainty?

Depends on your defintion of Northern, I'd imagine.

Depends on your definition of white as well.

[Alcon]

It also, of course, depends on your definition of "vote"

(Not really but it sounds good, roll with it)

[minionofmidas]

It mostly depends on your definiton of "won".

[Antonio the Sixth]

Depends on your defintion of Northern, I'd imagine.

Depends on your definition of white as well.

It also, of course, depends on your definition of "vote"

It mostly depends on your definiton of "won".

LOL

[Stranger in a strange land]

Do we know with any certainty?

Depends on your defintion of Northern, I'd imagine.

Depends on your definition of white as well.

I guess, for the purpose of this exercise, we can define "white" as people who self-identify as white.

For "Northern," here's what I think of when I think of "the North"

Obama won this region quite handily; winning the electoral vote 231-16, meaning it's probably likely he won whites.

[CJK]

Um, no, that is not what I meant by northern. I meant "non-southern".

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, it depends on your definition of "southern". I'm not joking : Are WV, MO, OK southern states or not ?

[Nhoj]

Um, no, that is not what I meant by northern. I meant "non-southern".

uh so including all of the west and southwest? cause seriously thats not what id define as Northern.

[CJK]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

[minionofmidas]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

At one point (in old Census reports), it was the census bureau defined regions of the Northeast and Midwest. But not West.

[Nhoj]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

im at a loss figuring out how the southwest would be considered north. in any case you should have just said the white vote outside of the south, which i would assume McCain won.

[Nym90]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

im at a loss figuring out how the southwest would be considered north. in any case you should have just said the white vote outside of the south, which i would assume McCain won.

If "North" is analogous to the Union in the Civil War and "South" to the Confederacy, it makes sense. Though of course much of the West hadn't earned statehood yet then, so it really doesn't.

[nclib]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

At one point (in old Census reports), it was the census bureau defined regions of the Northeast and Midwest. But not West.

That sounds right. Though I would eliminate the Plains states and possibly add DC, MD, and DE. Obama won certainly have won the white vote totaled over these states.

If "North" is analogous to the Union in the Civil War and "South" to the Confederacy, it makes sense. Though of course much of the West hadn't earned statehood yet then, so it really doesn't.

Yes, but the West is not all a cultural extension of the North and South. If anything, the Interior West would be more culturally similar to the South and the West Coast would be more culturally similar to the North.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I always thought "Northern" was the census bureau defined regions of the West, Midwest, and Northeast.

im at a loss figuring out how the southwest would be considered north. in any case you should have just said the white vote outside of the south, which i would assume McCain won.

I think he won them by a point or so.