Why cant we abolish taxes.

[nomorelies]

No hat on. No bashing Bush. My core beliefs in Politics are

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Why cant it happen?
Would you agree to it.?

[Lunar]

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Those things seem mutually exclusive.

How the hell do you pay for fire fighters, roads, police, hospitols, etc.?

[David S]

No hat on. No bashing Bush. My core beliefs in Politics are

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Why cant it happen?
Would you agree to it.?

Well I certainly empathize with your beliefs, but there will have to be some taxes to fund the constitutional functions of government. At the Federal level spending could probably be cut in half if we put the unconstitutional functions of government back in the private sector.

With regard to the deficit, you probably have to start by getting rid of the Federal Reserve. The national debt is a money maker for them and they don't want to reduce it. Then you need to get rid of all of the socialists in government, which is unlikely since they were elected by all of the socialists in the population. Good luck!

[12th Doctor]

No hat on. No bashing Bush. My core beliefs in Politics are

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Why cant it happen?
Would you agree to it.?

I see some half-baked plot to try to catch Conservative here.

Anyway, the answer is quite simple: The government would have no way of paying for basic services.

[Dr. Cynic]

I agree with my fellow Pennsylvanian, supersoulty. There must be taxes. Nobody likes them, but they are essential to pay for basic Govt. programs. I'm not going to get into extra programs that the Govt. funds.

[Bono]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

[KEmperor]

While I favor elimination of most taxes, we still must be able to fund the necessary government services, like the Armed Forces, police, courts, etc.

[12th Doctor]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

[Bono]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

[John Dibble]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

You also have to consider that if all federal taxes are replaced with tariffs, then American workers come home with more money in their paycheck(no wage or income taxes to pay). Since people will have more money, they will generally be willing to pay more money for goods. Any surplus could go to paying off the national debt. Once the national debt is paid off the tariffs could be lowered, making Americans even more well off.

[12th Doctor]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

You also have to consider that if all federal taxes are replaced with tariffs, then American workers come home with more money in their paycheck(no wage or income taxes to pay). Since people will have more money, they will generally be willing to pay more money for goods. Any surplus could go to paying off the national debt. Once the national debt is paid off the tariffs could be lowered, making Americans even more well off.

If we raise tariffs, Americans will have fewer jobs because people will have to spend more for their goods and thus will be less willing to spend.  Tariffs might also result in a devastating trade war.

Free Trade is good for our economy.  I'm not talking about free-trade with China here, I am talking about doing free trade with nations in the EU and Japan.

[TeePee4Prez]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

You also have to consider that if all federal taxes are replaced with tariffs, then American workers come home with more money in their paycheck(no wage or income taxes to pay). Since people will have more money, they will generally be willing to pay more money for goods. Any surplus could go to paying off the national debt. Once the national debt is paid off the tariffs could be lowered, making Americans even more well off.

If we raise tariffs, Americans will have fewer jobs because people will have to spend more for their goods and thus will be less willing to spend.  Tariffs might also result in a devastating trade war.

Free Trade is good for our economy.  I'm not talking about free-trade with China here, I am talking about doing free trade with nations in the EU and Japan.

Good statement super.  It's amazing what we actually agree on regarding the economy.  The EU and Japan actually provide us with jobs and accept our goods and vice versa.  We do however need to be tougher on China.  It doesn't seem like they want to do anything to help their workers despite them being a "Communist" country.    

[Trilobyte]

No hat on. No bashing Bush. My core beliefs in Politics are

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Why cant it happen?
Would you agree to it.?

Because you can't have representation without taxation. Do you even deserve a government if you don't contribute in some form?

[12th Doctor]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

You also have to consider that if all federal taxes are replaced with tariffs, then American workers come home with more money in their paycheck(no wage or income taxes to pay). Since people will have more money, they will generally be willing to pay more money for goods. Any surplus could go to paying off the national debt. Once the national debt is paid off the tariffs could be lowered, making Americans even more well off.

If we raise tariffs, Americans will have fewer jobs because people will have to spend more for their goods and thus will be less willing to spend.  Tariffs might also result in a devastating trade war.

Free Trade is good for our economy.  I'm not talking about free-trade with China here, I am talking about doing free trade with nations in the EU and Japan.

Good statement super.  It's amazing what we actually agree on regarding the economy.  The EU and Japan actually provide us with jobs and accept our goods and vice versa.  We do however need to be tougher on China.  It doesn't seem like they want to do anything to help their workers despite them being a "Communist" country.    

I'm suprised we didn't discover this connection before, as this has been my possition on trade for quite a while now.  Up until a year ago, I was basically a protectionist, but I read the facts and the facts seemed to prove the errors of such policy.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

[KEmperor]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

Sure you could.  It just wouldn't be legal.  But if you are that anxious to redistribute wealth, you can just get your hands dirty and steal people's money yourself, instead of getting the government to do it for you.

[Bono]

I think at federal level, taxes should be replaced with tariffs on imports, combined with drastical budget cuts.

And after "Buchananomics" has finally taken hold, we will have effectively eliminated the economy.

(LMAO)
Actually, a 100 Billion Dollar Budget could be sustented with tariffs without harming the economy. i don't want tariffs to "keep competition fair", I simply want a small as possible tariff to keep the federal government running.

You also have to consider that if all federal taxes are replaced with tariffs, then American workers come home with more money in their paycheck(no wage or income taxes to pay). Since people will have more money, they will generally be willing to pay more money for goods. Any surplus could go to paying off the national debt. Once the national debt is paid off the tariffs could be lowered, making Americans even more well off.

If we raise tariffs, Americans will have fewer jobs because people will have to spend more for their goods and thus will be less willing to spend.  Tariffs might also result in a devastating trade war.

Free Trade is good for our economy.  I'm not talking about free-trade with China here, I am talking about doing free trade with nations in the EU and Japan.

Good statement super.  It's amazing what we actually agree on regarding the economy.  The EU and Japan actually provide us with jobs and accept our goods and vice versa.  We do however need to be tougher on China.  It doesn't seem like they want to do anything to help their workers despite them being a "Communist" country.    

I'm suprised we didn't discover this connection before, as this has been my possition on trade for quite a while now.  Up until a year ago, I was basically a protectionist, but I read the facts and the facts seemed to prove the errors of such policy.

Please, I'm not a protectionist. Im talking moderate taffis here. And uniform as well, not the kind you have now in which politically favoured companies get allmost 0, and non-favoureedc ompanies get 100%.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

Sure you could.  It just wouldn't be legal.  But if you are that anxious to redistribute wealth, you can just get your hands dirty and steal people's money yourself, instead of getting the government to do it for you.

I don't have the force of the federal court system to back me up.

[nomorelies]

i have to think this over.

[Bono]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

I suppose that is interstate commerce too?

[badnarikin04]

I think abolishment of taxes should be the NO. 1 priority in the long term for our government. But it would take baby steps. But right now, we could definetly eliminate portions of taxes set aside for foreign affairs, corporate funds, etc.

We should make it that only those who would like to have to pay taxes.

[The Duke]

No hat on. No bashing Bush. My core beliefs in Politics are

if i couldhave two things it would be
- abolish all taxes.
- abolish deficits for governments.

Why cant it happen?
Would you agree to it.?

Shut up.

[The Duke]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

Sure you could.  It just wouldn't be legal.  But if you are that anxious to redistribute wealth, you can just get your hands dirty and steal people's money yourself, instead of getting the government to do it for you.

I don't have the force of the federal court system to back me up.

Wait, did this guy just admit that he believes in using the coercive force of government to steal?

[Bono]

Because without taxes we wouldn't be able to redistribute wealth.

Sure you could.  It just wouldn't be legal.  But if you are that anxious to redistribute wealth, you can just get your hands dirty and steal people's money yourself, instead of getting the government to do it for you.

I don't have the force of the federal court system to back me up.

Wait, did this guy just admit that he believes in using the coercive force of government to steal?

Are you felling allright?
This does not sound like something you would say.