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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2009, 03:10:40 AM »

Look if Hillary had voted Nay, she wouldve almost certainly won the nomination and would be President-elect now. Hard to dispute that.

So that one vote made her a centrist? This is too good.
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« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2009, 03:16:02 AM »

I wonder if Clinton secretly opposed the war.

I think Obama spoke the truth when he opposed it, but would have likely "voted for" [read: supported] it had he presidential ambitions at the time instead of merely IL Senatorial ambitions. 

But regardless how Obama would have voted, I doubt he would he philosophically supported it.  I wonder if Clinton is the mirror case: someone who actually opposed it and wishes she voted her conscience instead of having Mark Penn/whomever triangulate things for her.  She might be too much of a political animal to actually care about such issues though*...

*which is why I wouldn't have voted should she have gotten the nomination
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« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2009, 03:17:36 AM »

Look if Hillary had voted Nay, she wouldve almost certainly won the nomination and would be President-elect now. Hard to dispute that.

So that one vote made her a centrist? This is too good.

Look at her husband. Yeah, his Presidency was one hell of an uber-left agenda put into action.
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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 12:37:57 PM »

Look if Hillary had voted Nay, she wouldve almost certainly won the nomination and would be President-elect now. Hard to dispute that.

So that one vote made her a centrist? This is too good.

Look at her husband. Yeah, his Presidency was one hell of an uber-left agenda put into action.

You are so pathetic when it comes to answering the question.

Would Hillary Clinton be a liberal (not necessarily far left. You claimed she wasn't a liberal) if it wasn't for his Iraq War vote?
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« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2009, 09:57:57 PM »

I was waiting from him to come out and do something. I think that Paterson will send him scurry all the way home, but I am pleased of his choice in 2008 and shall give him a chance to prove me wrong. For now Safe D.
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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2009, 03:51:30 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2009, 03:58:37 PM by Eraserhead »

Obama and Clinton are only liberals in the classical sense. I hope Obama decides to govern as a liberal but we all know that he's too much of a pragmatic/ordinary politician for that to happen. It looks like more bland Clintonesque centerism is on the way, unfortunately. It's still better than the alternative though, for sure.
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2009, 11:23:43 PM »


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...which makes little sense since voting for the war would've hardly helped him running for President. Did Hillary's war vote help or hurt her more?
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If the war was a major success, It would not have made any difference.
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