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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2008, 02:55:20 AM »

To no one in particular:  If breaking the law is a sin [except when it violates our morals], is jaywalking a sin?
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« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2008, 02:56:36 AM »

If you want to argue that since pot causes poor driving selling it is therefore morally wrong, then you basically also have to argue anyone who works at a liquor store is a truly evil person.

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You don't necessarily get drunk everytime you drink.

And you don't necessarily get high to the point of total impairment every time you smoke pot. In fact I've never been truly high, though I've never smoked a full joint either, usually just had some from a pipe being passed around. But nor do you drive every time either which is the point.

I don't think you need to be "totally impaired" to be extremely dangerous behind the wheel while high.

Yeah well you don't need to be totally drunk either (0.08 is not drunk), but the point is it's perfectly possible to use either and not drive. Besides, you can get just as fucked up on salvia which is legal.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2008, 02:59:02 AM »

If you want to argue that since pot causes poor driving selling it is therefore morally wrong, then you basically also have to argue anyone who works at a liquor store is a truly evil person.

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You don't necessarily get drunk everytime you drink.

And you don't necessarily get high to the point of total impairment every time you smoke pot. In fact I've never been truly high, though I've never smoked a full joint either, usually just had some from a pipe being passed around. But nor do you drive every time either which is the point.

I don't think you need to be "totally impaired" to be extremely dangerous behind the wheel while high.

Yeah well you don't need to be totally drunk either (0.08 is not drunk), but the point is it's perfectly possible to use either and not drive. Besides, you can get just as fucked up on salvia which is legal.

driving under Salvia isn't legal.  You can't drive while impaired by any intoxicants, including various prescription meds, but only alcohol has a specific codified limit
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2008, 03:01:19 AM »

To no one in particular:  If breaking the law is a sin [except when it violates our morals], is jaywalking a sin?

Honestly jaywalkers piss me off A LOT more than potheads. No one has ever caused me problems by smoking, but jaywalkers are the worst people ever, particularly the inconsiderate idiots who don't even bother to run across the street at least but keep strolling at a slow pace, or worse of all those dipsh!ts who'll simply walk across the street acting as if the red light or street doesn't even exist or the cars coming up. Then the cars have slam on the brakes or swerve. I will have absolutely no sympathy at all for any of those if they get hit.

That reminds me, a few months ago I saw some frat boy looking type jackasses in some  expensive car driving ahead way past the speed limit even though the turn I was wanting to make was protected, meaning they were making a red light. Luckily because of this they basically got the car totaled by the guy ahead of me while turning. I laughed. Like seriously, that's poetic justice. Thinking of someone totaling their expensive as hell car for being such a jackass is something to brighten your day.

If you want to argue that since pot causes poor driving selling it is therefore morally wrong, then you basically also have to argue anyone who works at a liquor store is a truly evil person.

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You don't necessarily get drunk everytime you drink.

And you don't necessarily get high to the point of total impairment every time you smoke pot. In fact I've never been truly high, though I've never smoked a full joint either, usually just had some from a pipe being passed around. But nor do you drive every time either which is the point.

I don't think you need to be "totally impaired" to be extremely dangerous behind the wheel while high.

Yeah well you don't need to be totally drunk either (0.08 is not drunk), but the point is it's perfectly possible to use either and not drive. Besides, you can get just as fucked up on salvia which is legal.

driving under Salvia isn't legal.  You can't drive while impaired by any intoxicants, including various prescription meds, but only alcohol has a specific codified limit

Yeah and that's kind of my point. It's stupid to ban something and argue that it's ALWAYS wrong to use just because you shouldn't drive after using it. How is some guy who sits in his basement and gets stoned while watching Harold & Kumar harming anyone?
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2008, 03:08:05 AM »

To no one in particular:  If breaking the law is a sin [except when it violates our morals], is jaywalking a sin?

Honestly jaywalkers piss me off A LOT more than potheads. No one has ever caused me problems by smoking, but jaywalkers are the worst people ever, particularly the inconsiderate idiots who don't even bother to run across the street at least but keep strolling at a slow pace, or worse of all those dipsh!ts who'll simply walk across the street acting as if the red light or street doesn't even exist or the cars coming up. Then the cars have slam on the brakes or swerve. I will have absolutely no sympathy at all for any of those if they get hit.

     Agreed. I only even consider jaywalking if there's no cars for at least 100 yards in either direction.
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2008, 12:32:07 PM »

To no one in particular:  If breaking the law is a sin [except when it violates our morals], is jaywalking a sin?

I think that that's a pretty amoral situation.
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2008, 02:32:48 PM »

Therefore:

Helping slaves escape on the Underground Railroad was a sin.
Sheltering Jews in Nazi Germany was a sin.
Practicing Christianity in Saudi Arabia is a sin.
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2008, 03:06:49 PM »

Therefore:

Helping slaves escape on the Underground Railroad was a sin.
Sheltering Jews in Nazi Germany was a sin.
Practicing Christianity in Saudi Arabia is a sin.

No, it isn't. Lawlessness is not necessarily sinful.
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2009, 07:17:23 PM »

Therefore:

Helping slaves escape on the Underground Railroad was a sin.
Sheltering Jews in Nazi Germany was a sin.
Practicing Christianity in Saudi Arabia is a sin.

No, stop twisting the bible around so it can please your views.
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2009, 09:21:33 PM »

Dealing Marijuana is not a sin, but a gift to society. Through the joys of Marijuana, a person can become one with the herb and enjoy its affects, relax and have a good time.

Those that make Marijuana easier to obtain are modern day heroes.

And then kill two kids on bicycles in an accident on the way to the gas station to pick up six bags of cheetos.

True, but very harsh. Are you in a contest to be the more cynical person?

Dealing pot is illegal, but that is not a sin.

I just have a very low opinion of people who act like doing drugs can have no negative effects.

it has never been conclusively proven that marijuana intoxication impairs driving

I suppose crippling your reaction time can just have no negative effects at all. How silly of me.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2009, 12:09:03 PM »

Of course it is from a Judeo-Christian perspective.. it's the law of the land, which believers are ordered to respect as long as it does not violate the laws of the scriptures. Trying to draw a parellel to protecting Jews from Nazis is ludicrous, BRTD, as that is an infinitely more serious scenario.

Of course there are exceptions to be made for the ill, but that is the exception.

Note that I do not personally believe it's morally wrong.
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« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2009, 12:17:52 AM »

No most thing are not morally wrong. Most things are frowned upon. I think pot is definitely one thing that is not sinful. You just take the risk to get arrested. That is why parents really advise against it.
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