BREAKING: Abstinence doesn't prevent sex, just increases unprotected sex
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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2009, 12:48:36 AM »

Obviously, Abstinence should be taught, in combination with other measures.
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« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2009, 04:33:34 PM »

Obviously, Abstinence should be taught, in combination with other measures.

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« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2009, 01:58:40 AM »

The weirdest thing about this thread is how Keystone Phil (Catholic, AKA good guy) is defending the Religious Right (aka bad guys).

Keystone Phil, and most American Catholics, are definitely closer to the Religious Right on issues than they are to socially liberal positions. Part of the driving impetus behind the formation of the Religious Right as a voting and activist bloc in the first place was to diminish the level of conflict between various denominations of Christianity by giving them all something to rally behind.

I wouldn't say that considering I live in a majority Catholic region that is a socially liberal area, and the region of the country which generally the largest Catholic population tends to be quite socially liberal.  Now if you are talking about the very devout Catholics (those who tend to agree with the church on almost everything) I would agree, but that obviously isn't something exclusive to Catholics.

New York/New England Catholics are not really representative of Catholicism in America as a whole. Out here in the Midwest especially there are regions (Minnesota is particular bad in this regard) with a high level of sedevacantist arch-conservatives and other, less extreme, Catholic traditionalists. New England is socially liberal in spite of, not because of, its relatively high level of Catholicism.
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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2009, 12:27:29 AM »

I don't want to be a jerk, but we shouldn't carte blanche accept every new study without:

1. reading it (because study folks are press release makers too)

2. checking who funded and conducted it, and possible conflicts of interest

3. checking past studies, because a study's being newest does not necessarily make it better than past ones

That being said, I have nothing else to add.
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2009, 09:52:10 PM »

Nobody's going to change their tune now that actual facts are in and not crap you wanted to believe?
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