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« on: September 21, 2004, 11:21:26 AM »

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/special_packages/election2004/9721570.htm

Strategic Vision says Bush +10-/+12
Gallup says Bush +8
Mason Dixon Says Bush +8 (Plain Dealer Poll)
Mason Dixon says Bush +7 (MSNBC Poll)
Now University of Cininatti says Bush +11

Give or take a little MOE, they all agree Bush is up high single digits in Ohio



Poll finds Bush with lead in Ohio

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CINCINNATI - President Bush took the lead in support among likely Ohio voters in a poll released Tuesday, a change from a poll last month that showed the race too close to call.

The Ohio Poll, sponsored and conducted by the University of Cincinnati's Institute for Policy Research, found that 54 percent of likely voters supported Bush. Democratic challenger John Kerry was favored by 43 percent. Two percent supported independent candidate Ralph Nader.

The number of undecided likely voters diminished to 1 percent, down from 4 percent in an Ohio Poll last month.

The poll released Tuesday surveyed 456 likely voters by telephone from Sept. 12 through Saturday. The poll had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 1/2 percentage points.

Polls conducted for media organizations by Mason-Dixon Polling & Research of Washington, D.C., and released over the weekend found Bush ahead by about 7 percentage points among likely voters in Ohio, but 6 percent to 7 percent of them remained undecided.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2004, 11:26:47 AM »

54% just *looks* too high... though maybe the Cornbelt is really fired up this year?
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2004, 11:28:34 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2004, 11:29:02 AM by BushTheImperalist »

Vorlan i have some real doubt about these polls.

I am here and i see more people with Kerry stickers than Bush. People are so angry with what hes done to the economy. I know about 50-60 people through work or who i socalise with who voted Republican but are now voting either Libertarian/Democrat or not at all.

We are sick of the adverts, sick of being polled over the phone hence why we never answer our phones anymore. I am really suspect of your polls thats basicaly my point.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2004, 11:30:55 AM »

This poll's results seem reasonable to me.  Fortunately for Bush, one of the battleground states where it appears like he did get a bounce is in Ohio.

Kerry's got a lot of work to do to turn this state around.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2004, 12:09:30 PM »

The polls are too consistent -- Ohio is nearly out of play, IMHO.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2004, 01:05:06 PM »

Vorlan i have some real doubt about these polls.

I am here and i see more people with Kerry stickers than Bush. People are so angry with what hes done to the economy. I know about 50-60 people through work or who i socalise with who voted Republican but are now voting either Libertarian/Democrat or not at all.

We are sick of the adverts, sick of being polled over the phone hence why we never answer our phones anymore. I am really suspect of your polls thats basicaly my point.

I live in Ohio- just depends where you are.  If you go around OSU or that part of Columbus, yeah youll see a ton of Kerry stickers.  In the West part of the state you see a ton of Bush stickers.  5 polls cant be wrong (probably) - also no one with the name "Bush the Imperailist" is "undecided" as one of your posts suggests.
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2004, 01:53:04 PM »



  Kerry was hurt in Ohio by the Swift Boat Cowards, CBS Memo business, and Kerry himself letting the air get sucked out of his campaign. Still, in 2000, Bush was ahead in Ohio on a consistent basis by 10 points, and Gore pulled the plug here 3 weeks before the election.

  I still believe there is a hidden vote for Kerry in Ohio, but he has to campiagn on populist themes. The good thing about the memo issues and the Swift Boat Cowards is it they took place around labor day, not mid October.
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2004, 06:10:41 PM »



  Kerry was hurt in Ohio by the Swift Boat Cowards, CBS Memo business, and Kerry himself letting the air get sucked out of his campaign. Still, in 2000, Bush was ahead in Ohio on a consistent basis by 10 points, and Gore pulled the plug here 3 weeks before the election.

  I still believe there is a hidden vote for Kerry in Ohio, but he has to campiagn on populist themes. The good thing about the memo issues and the Swift Boat Cowards is it they took place around labor day, not mid October.

Now the Swift Boat Veterans are cowards.....but not Kerry.  Kerry is a non-coward, but the others who also served are the cowards.  Makes sense.  To you it probably does though
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2004, 06:19:42 PM »

I'd like to know how the Swift Boat Vets are cowards. That doesn't make sense. They served their country too, they just voiced an opinion. If anything, they are tremendously courageous. Besides, what they said was legit - they were talking about his ability to lead. Perhaps some are so partisan that anyone who opposes their candidate is something like a coward. But why even try to reason with someone who would call the Swift Boat Vets cowards.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2004, 07:19:04 PM »

I have Bush up by 9.2 in Ohio.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2004, 07:21:15 PM »

Anxious to see the next Florida Mason-Dixon or Florida Gallup  poll.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2004, 07:24:05 PM »

Anxious to see the next Florida Mason-Dixon or Florida Gallup  poll.

Likely a week or more away.

When polling a state it is helpful if all the phone lines work Smiley

Still a milliion houses without power in Florida, most in the GOP heavy pan-handle.

Any florida poll right now is highly suspect
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2004, 07:24:11 PM »

Anxious to see the next Florida Mason-Dixon or Florida Gallup  poll.

Likely a week or more away.

When polling a state it is helpful if all the phone lines work Smiley

Still a milliion houses without power in Florida, most in the GOP heavy pan-handle.

Any florida poll right now is highly suspect
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