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« on: October 16, 2008, 09:12:08 AM »

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All of these states make sense. ND and WV are small, cheap and probably pretty close at this point. GA is tightening, and if black turnout is high enough and evangelical turnout is low enough, it might be in reach. Plus, Obama investing in GA will probably ultimately help Martin. KY is the oddest of the three, but if Obama is currently tied in IN, ahead in MO, close in WV, and crushing McCain in PA, then KY has probably tightened some as well. Plus, he'll be helping Lunsford.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 09:19:24 AM »

It doesn't make any sense. If you are winning these states, the election is long over.

He needs to solidify gains. If he doesn't, he can lose much of his ground.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2008, 09:22:03 AM »

It doesn't make any sense. If you are winning these states, the election is long over.

He needs to solidify gains. If he doesn't, he can lose much of his ground.

I think the Obama is pretty confident of winning.  He wants to give coattails to Democrats who face vulnerable Republican incumbents.
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2008, 09:24:33 AM »

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All of these states make sense. ND and WV are small, cheap and probably pretty close at this point. GA is tightening, and if black turnout is high enough and evangelical turnout is low enough, it might be in reach. Plus, Obama investing in GA will probably ultimately help Martin. KY is the oddest of the three, but if Obama is currently tied in IN, ahead in MO, close in WV, and crushing McCain in PA, then KY has probably tightened some as well. Plus, he'll be helping Lunsford.
If he advertises in Cincy, he's hitting a piece of Kentucky, then if he hits Louisville, he's getting some of Indiana as well.  I think KY is  a lost cause, but it did go for Clinton twice, so it's not that much of a reach, I guess.  Economy is key.

Tough call on the whole strategy though.  Is he being too cocky by trying to expand his victory?  I suspect he has enough money to spend in both the battleground swing states AND the few states he's trying to expand into to get a late boost.  And other then Ky and GA, to a lesser degree, polls do show the other states to be fairly close.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2008, 09:29:18 AM »

It doesn't make any sense. If you are winning these states, the election is long over.

He needs to solidify gains. If he doesn't, he can lose much of his ground.

I think the Obama is pretty confident of winning.  He wants to give coattails to Democrats who face vulnerable Republican incumbents.

I never said he wouldn't. I said it was a bad idea.
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2008, 09:31:27 AM »

To help Sen. or House candidates.

And also to force McCain to waste money and time in WV, GA, maybe ND (remember Palin campaigning in Omaha ?), which are still needed in VA, OH, NC, FL, CO, MO, etc, etc.

But, in my prediction map, WV is a toss-up and GA and ND are only lean McCain.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2008, 09:33:14 AM »

To help Sen. or House candidates.

And also to force McCain to waste money and time in WV, GA, maybe ND (remember Palin campaigning in Omaha ?), which are still needed in VA, OH, NC, FL, CO, MO, etc, etc.

But, in my prediction map, WV is a toss-up and GA and ND are only lean McCain.

Those states won't flip, especially with McCain coming back slightly in the polls.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2008, 09:37:02 AM »

if true, 2 reasons for it:
1) Obama has already saturated the battleground states
2) Obama is trying to convince GOPers to give up the ghost
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2008, 09:44:55 AM »

This is mostly about Congressional races.  My guess is that he is going into Georgia to help pull Martin over the finish line, into Kentucky to help Dems win KY-02 and the Senate seat and West Virginia to help Anne Barth win WV-02. Overall, a very smart strategy. 
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2008, 09:54:33 AM »

Advertising in KY is aimed entirely at OH and IN, maybe even WV and VA. I doubt if you will see staff there, or ads in Frankfort. WV, on the other hand, really has only one market that isnt being fully advertized in, so its exceptionally cheap to go all in there.

ND is cheap, why not go back on the air there, he's still up in MT. GA, though, is a waste of time. keep your resources in FL and NC.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2008, 03:01:23 PM »

To help Sen. or House candidates.

And also to force McCain to waste money and time in WV, GA, maybe ND (remember Palin campaigning in Omaha ?), which are still needed in VA, OH, NC, FL, CO, MO, etc, etc.

But, in my prediction map, WV is a toss-up and GA and ND are only lean McCain.

Those states won't flip, especially with McCain coming back slightly in the polls.
They won't flip, sure (except maybe WV which can, especially if Clinton would make a stop, even short, there, just for symbol and MSM noise...),
but McCain cannot afford to be totally absent. And as he is not very rich.....

Plus, McCain has a sort of week bounce and Obama a sort of week-end bounce, so let's see if Gallup and Ras trackings moves really more than just noise.
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